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dmackto
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please people, do not assume this story wont grow legs. It's HUGE and it MUST because for the MSM to bury this would be criminal.

Call your local papers and tell them you were looking for the story and can't find it. Ask them why. Call your local broadcast news stations and ask if the story is going to be on tonights news.

If they get enough calls they will start talking about it if for no other reason than to keep from getting caught with their pants down.

Call and email your congressman and senators. Demand that he be prosecuted for aiding an emeny in a time of war now that there is evidence that he did exactly that.

We have to make noise. NObody is going to do this for us. We cant collectively sit back and wait for it to appear on our TVs. We MAKE them tell it. Or it doesn't get told. That simple.

This is no time to be lazy.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

twicearound wrote:
I just talked to the RNC Communication Dept. and they are aware and are working diligently to get this out citing an uphill battle with the MSM.


Why don't they just make a breaking news announcement? Why not have a press conference? How did you contact them? Lets all call/ Please post a contact for them. My local bunch only have young ones answering the phone and taking meassages. I have yet to see any action from them. Last time she suggested I join the Republican club that meets the 1st Tuesday of the month. And to email the chairperson of the county Rep. Party. I did and no response 4 weeks later.! And we are trying to WIN Florida??????????? Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad CTW

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got off the phone with the St. Pete Times national desk which I finally reached after being transfered 3x.

I informed them of the story and told them to look at the NY Sun web page and wintersoldier.com to see the documents themselves.

The girl I spoke to said "you can see why Hanoi would approve of what they were doing but there has never been any proof Hanoi was coordinating wtih VVAW"

I said, "well thats the story, now there is proof"

She said she would look at the article and had me spell wintersoldier.com and said she would print it and give it to the editor.

The St. Pete Times endorsed Kerry so they may be reluctant however if enough of us call enough papers and insist this is an important issue someone will report it.

Once ONE outlet picks it up (in addition to the Sun) it'll snowball.

Soo.. GO GET ON THE PHONE!

GET!

(I'm calling tampa tribune now wish me luck)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am a realist after reaching my 65th birthday last month. I have watched the MSM and the Democratic Party being moved, inch by inch, into the left side, the socialist side of the political spectrum over the last few decades.

This new revelation on Kerry will not get much attention by the MSM because most of the Left probably see nothing wrong with this collaboration with the Communists. These are the same people that LOVE the (socialists)communists and hate America for being such a “bully” in the world.

Many Americans have lost their history. They are not required to learn it in school and in fact most schools are teaching revisionist history anyway.

So, whether the MSM is covering up for Kerry or simply pushing their own Left agenda, this collaboration with the enemy will not be seen by most on the Left as doing anything wrong. After all, America was wrong for interfering in the “civil war” in Viet Nam and therefore…………in their twisted logic…………any “true” American would want to get us out of Viet Nam as fast as possible. The ends always justify the means in this rationale.

Kerry is an apologist of the strength of America. He, like many others, are socialists at the core, believe in the socialist system, and do not trust that the average American can climb up the ladder of success without the help of the government.

The MSM is part of this same mind-think, part of the problem, not the solution. The schools are cranking out the same mind-think. Many people buy into this.

Fortunately for America……… not all.

Anyway, sorry for the rambling but this has been festering inside me for a long time.

I wonder what kind of negative revelation regarding Kerry would ever be covered by the MSM???

Communist puppet? Nope……..”He was helping the good people of Viet Nam get out from under the thumb of the imperialist America”.

Dishonorable Discharge? Nope………..”Nixon gave him this because Nixon was the worst president in history and after all………it was Nixon’s War”. (Revisionist history)

So, I agree that the plan of attack is the following:

We must cover all the local papers with “letters to the editor” and other local means in the key states and cities.

We must blanket the airwaves with the supportive talk show hosts.


Hopefully, some honest reporter as we had with the embedded NBC reporter will come forth.

And………..a side note, we must keep this site open regardless of the outcome next week. Either way, we must continue to act as the clearing house for TRUTH.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lucianne.com has the plagiarism story as a Must Read but this white-hot article is lost among the many other news received since this morning. Can't figure this one out!!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

speedyrooster wrote:
...tell me why Mr. Kerry was not persued/prosecuted when he was involved with the VVAW...

I remember vividly the early Nixon days. He was shamed and run out of office later but early on, he was plagued by a hostile press and anti-war street screechers from the day he entered office. The war begun by JFK, and escalated by LBJ had become unpopular and Nixon was attempting to make a rapid and honorable exit. A sensational trial of the great VVAW leader would not have accomplished anything (so they thought at the time) and they let it go. IMO, it was about this time that the OIM (Old Irrelevant Media, pka MSM) began to evolve to its extremely biased position.

Too bad Nixon was a crook and resigned to avoid impeachment because an honest president (from either party) would not have taken that crap. Too bad too, because we got Carter as the consolation "prize." Then came Reagan who resurrected military strength and honor, and Humpty Dumpty changed his military position to become a US Senator. By that time, most, including myself, had forgotten about Humpty and he probably already had been pardoned (or however legal eagles parse it) by Carter anyway. Now, Humpty wants to be president and may win! It's not too late.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone bookmark or still have a link to the puppetmaster thread here?
The one that has the image of the VC propaganda flyer?
The one with the basic quote kerry use in his 'testimony'
"Don't be the last man to die for a hopeless cause?"
The search function is being finicky.. tia.

Mounting a barrage, and it's one of the first handy tools as an example of komrade kerry's activities, collusion, and following the leadership of Ho.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:27 pm    Post subject: MSM and Kerry etal, INCEST Reply with quote

The trouble is that they also LIKE the INCEST, and "it" is how they have

lived their ?professioal lives for 30 something years.

To change now will require great courage, only a few will.. HAVE COURAGE

History will be the judge, and the hooves of HISTORY and the

demon on the huge white horse, who with eyes of fire looks on them

and SEES them and now they scurry away, only to look back and

see the Horse and its rider ever close.


clop, clop, clop---------CLOP, CLOP, CLOP


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could be more fun with him as Pres. and let him "spin" in the light of
History for ? years until his "lie"goes out. Far more damage to thier cause
that way as it will be "History of a Pres. who was proven as all this
while in office,(his past reviewed each time he tries to put up any idea,
questions evey time he comes out of hidding, questions, questions
for the 4 years) and how could any democrat win the next cycle if they
are fools enough to let him in now. Me I say that is OK for it will take
this little bunch of MSM with him.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/051834.php

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Critical Update: Chad at In the Bullpen just e-mailed with this, and he has posted it at his site here. Here's a tidbit, there's more that you should read, and from what he says you should expect an update later in the day:

I just got off the phone with a worker at the Vietnam archive. She informed me of the following. There were two people from the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth at the Texas Tech University archive within the last two to three weeks specifically looking for documents pertaining to John Kerry's anti-war movmement Vietnam Veterans Against the War. She told me there has been a bit of a buzz around there as of late after these two individuals claimed they found something huge. She would not give me any more information and was pretty nervous concerning the questioning.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The FBI files made available a couple months ago had something on this as well.
I read about the Paris delegation phoning the VVAW, asking them to increase their (protesting) activities. This increase in VVAW activity would coincide with a new communist offensive, and was intended to minimize the US’s bombing in retaliation.

This is more confirmation of that. How much does it take to get the attention of the media anyway?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CTW wrote:
twicearound wrote:
I just talked to the RNC Communication Dept. and they are aware and are working diligently to get this out citing an uphill battle with the MSM.


Why don't they just make a breaking news announcement? Why not have a press conference? How did you contact them? Lets all call/ Please post a contact for them. My local bunch only have young ones answering the phone and taking meassages. I have yet to see any action from them. Last time she suggested I join the Republican club that meets the 1st Tuesday of the month. And to email the chairperson of the county Rep. Party. I did and no response 4 weeks later.! And we are trying to WIN Florida??????????? Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad CTW

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I just called the RNC Fl State office..I am in tears. How can I direct your call? Sorry but the person in charge of Communications and media are working at a rapid pace. What is your concern? Well perhaps you could speak to an intern who will take your message?
I gave her the newspaper articles references and a quick summary. She just went to and what would you like us to respond to or something like that. Just weird.
At that point I said no, Ididn't want to speak to an intern or write aen emali or go to a club meeting next week. Boy, talking about talking points!!!! and I let her know how disappointed I was that all the information regarding the report and investigation into Kerry etc. was not being addressed. She thanked me for calling but was not pleasant. I think it is a front for the Democrat Party. She wouldn't give me the name of the person I needed to speak to. Run around big time. So.... no info from here that anything is or isn't on their radar screen. Are we screaming in a vacuum???? CTW

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmackto wrote:
...Please people, do not assume this story wont grow legs. It's HUGE and it MUST because for the MSM to bury this would be criminal. ...

I just sent it to my Congressional Representative Sam Johnson (3rd Texas District) and demanded he take immediate action. Perhaps that's what we need. If you don't know how to contact your representative, try this:
http://www.house.gov/writerep/
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are we now talking about this article?
http://www.nysun.com/article/3756

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmackto wrote:
From http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/051834.php

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Critical Update: Chad at In the Bullpen just e-mailed with this, and he has posted it at his site here. Here's a tidbit, there's more that you should read, and from what he says you should expect an update later in the day:

I just got off the phone with a worker at the Vietnam archive. She informed me of the following. There were two people from the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth at the Texas Tech University archive within the last two to three weeks specifically looking for documents pertaining to John Kerry's anti-war movmement Vietnam Veterans Against the War. She told me there has been a bit of a buzz around there as of late after these two individuals claimed they found something huge. She would not give me any more information and was pretty nervous concerning the questioning.


hmm Chad calling Vietnam Archive? Why? Or did they report it to him??
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't even get the local RCH on the phone. Only got voice mail at tampa tribune. Hernado Herald is next.
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