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[waltjones]

You'll get that apology about the same time you get Kerry's!

Semper Fi!
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Walt Jones (USMC, '65 - '69) It says much about the person who defends a man with no honor.

[Theresa Alwood]

ROTC

I am delusional...hang on a minute while I pull myself up off from the floor from laughing so hard.

All I was pointing out with your guy (Clinton) was the fact they made major mistakes also. Also the fact that is was well know that Saddam was promoting suicide bombers in Israel.

What is the difference between a liberal and a conservative? A conservative will tell you where they went wrong and a liberal will deny, deny and then lie. As a conservative I will tell you where and how President Bush went wrong...can you or will you do the same thing for Clinton? He had 8 years to deal with the terrorist and protect this country and did NOTHING. President Bush is dealing with the terrorist. I do not think sitting by and doing nothing is going to get rid of the terrorist. It just makes them bolder. If we do not take a stance then they will make 09-11 look like child's play.

So you think the war in Iraq was wrong. But it was OK for Saddam to be in power? The link to al-queda is there. You just refuse to see it.

What I was saying on the 09-11 Commission is that I WATCHED the question and it was very partisian.

Just because I happen to disagree with you does not make me delusional...just makes my opinion right..pun intended!

You liberals just do not get it and never will. You can call me names all you want. You can cuss all you want. The one thing it ain't never gonna change in my views on how wrong John Kerry is for any job in the government.

You are not going to change anyone’s mind on this website about the war in Iraq, about how WRONG John Kerry will be for this country.

I told you before I may not be a rocket scientist, but my Mama didn't raise no fool either. I know the difference between right and wrong. I know the difference between good and evil. Just because I read more than the liberal media propaganda doesn't make my views delusional. It just makes my views different than yours. Name calling is a typical liberal stance. Call me what you want. I know who I am and what I believe and YOU will never change that.

[ROTC DAD]

Theresa,

You are the one that asked why I don't condemn Saddam. As I pointed out, I have done so in the past, but that is not what my post was about.

You watched one question from one member of the 9-11 Commission and decided that the whole Commission was partisan based on one question?

carpro, War Dog, and Lew,

You are correct: I missed Lee Hamilton's statement on "The News Hour." I stand corrected there. I also missed John Lehman's statement on CNN's "Inside Politics."

I also wrote rather loosely and did not make my point clearly. I should have said there is no credible evidence of ties between al Qaeda and Iraq to attack the US. That is what I meant. I apologize for being unclear.

Again, I'm not denying Iraqi connections to al Qaeda. There is just no credible evidence that al Qaeda and Iraq worked together to attack the US. Yet that is the reason we went to War in Iraq. I still believe that to be a mistake. I hope that I'm wrong.

[Scott]

[War Dog]

[waltjones]

ROTC_DAD said: Yet that is the reason we went to War in Iraq.

You should be required to prove this. Who said it and when? Are you making this stuff up as you go along, or what? In my opinion, you should have to prove the above or be banned from posting in this forum! That's the same kind of garbage the left pulls when they say the "threat wasn't imminent." So what - George Bush never said it was. Indeed, he said we should NOT wait until the threat WAS imminent. Is that logic too difficult for the Dhimmies to understand? Thatisall .....
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Walt Jones (USMC, '65 - '69) It says much about the person who defends a man with no honor.

[Theresa Alwood]

Well said War Dog. Well said!

Again ROTC Dad you just assume things that are not true. I watched more than one question and I watched more than one person being questioned on the 09-11 Commission. What I saw across the board was partisanship on both sides. The 09-11 Commission was a joke and a waste of tax payers money. When members in the audience applauded at the display of partisanship I was sickened. This was not the place nor the time to show where your party affiliation lay. The 09-11 Commission was to determine what could have been done to prevent 09-11...which really to me was already a waste of tax payers money. 09-11 DID happen and trying to lay blame on either administration was pointless and still is pointless. No it is not because I think the Bush administration had anything to do with 09-11; It was pointless because it had happened and no amount of pointing fingers is going to make 09-11 appear any less than what is was. A terrorist attack on US soil where innocent people died.

Declaring that you are and still against the war in Iraq is a mute point. It happened. We must support our troops and what I see the liberal left and the likes of John Kerry is bringing this country down. It is up to us to support our troops and OUR PRESIDENT in a time of war. We did not declare war; the terrorist did. The terrorist have been fighting us for over 20 years while we did nothing. 09-11 was bound to happen. You can not tell me anyone was surprised such an attack actually happened; it was just a matter of when. We might have been in shock but we all knew such an event was bound to happen. We have done nothing to protect ourselves from the likes of al-Qaeda or any other terrorist group. To just believe that if we do nothing they will stop is more than naive. We can either fight the terrorist now or later. If we wait until later they will just have more weapons, more terror. You can not reason with a terrorist.

I never said Saddam was responsible for 09-11. I just said that the links between al-Qaeda and Hussein are there to see. The terrorist just did not fly into Iraq after the war. They were already there waiting. It is not like Iraq did not know we were going to go to war. We can either take pre-emptive strikes to protect ourselves or we can sit by and wait to be attacked. I would much rather have our military take a pre-emptive strike than wait for innocent civilians to be killed living their everyday lives.

The choice is ours to make. Who will be the better President to defend us against terrorism...that is my mind is President Bush. John Kerry does not have the backbone to do anything that is right without waiting on world opinion. I do not like the idea of getting approval from France or Germany or any other country to defend our way of life. We all see that the UN (Useless Nitwits) hasn't a clue as to how to do what is right. The only reason the French, Russians and German's were against us is the billions of dollars they were stealing from the Iraqi people...and they had the balls to say we were going to war for oil. I do not see where my gas prices are any cheaper. The US has never occupied a country and has never returned it back to the people. We have only been in Iraq for 16 months and the way the news is being reported you would have thought it had been 16 years. How long did WWI and WWII take to win and rebuild. It was the US who rebuilt Europe and like every other time it will be the US who will win the peace in the middle east. But we must come together as one country in order to do this.

United we stand; divided we fall. How true those word still ring true today.

[ROTC DAD]

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[waltjones]

ROTC_DAD said: Yet that is the reason we went to War in Iraq.

Still no proof of the above. Also, please tell us where you got Cheney's satement.

As for me, it's easy to prove my charges against Kerry: HIS words, HIS actions, HIS book with its despicable parody of Iwo Jima ALL condemn him without any requirement of "proof". He is a self-evident liar, traitor, and a person with no honor.

Semper Fi!
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Walt Jones (USMC, '65 - '69) It says much about the person who defends a man with no honor.

[waltjones]

ROTC_DAD said: Condoleeza Rice did indeed say that there was a connection between Iraq, al Qaeda, and the 9-11 attacks.

Another false statement; where do you get this stuff? Condy never asserted a link between Sadaam and 9/11! I really don't know why you are still here; you continue to make ridiculous false statements without proof. You are so typical of the lefties; say anything you want, and when someone makes a fool out of you, you just go ahead and make another dumb statement! Sheesh! It's not up to US to find proof of your ridiculous assertions; it's YOUR responsibility to do that, but then again trolls never do. Thatisall ....
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Walt Jones (USMC, '65 - '69) It says much about the person who defends a man with no honor.

[Marine4life]

He is just trolling, don't get worked up over his blatant lies. He has the name ROTC dad, I sure hope his kid that will be in the service has looked elsewhere for guidance. I saw an interview with a kid that joined the service and was upset that he had to go to war, he said I joined so they would pay for my college. Bet he was a democrat! These type of people take for granted what we have fought for now for over 200 years and unfortunately we have to put up with them. They trample on the very people that that have shed blood for them. Simply put, they are spoiled little cowards but they are American so we tolerate their dribble. And even this guy, I would shed more of my blood so he could continue to be a michael moore impersonater. ROTC I meant no disrespect to your kid, only you. I hope he or she grows to be the American that you did not and helps preserve your right to lie, cheat and attack good leadership without proof. Semper Fi.
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[Theresa Alwood]

Marine4life,

Thanks! I was getting upset with what he was saying. He called me delusional just because I disagreed with him. The further I explained my position the less he had to say. I am not going to bother anymore with him. He is not going to change my feelings or my position on John Kerry.
John "F" Kerry is a mistake that I hope and pray this country does not make. I may have been too young to remember much about Jimmy Carter, but I do remember the finacial hard times my parents were going through. I remember how much better things got under President Reagan....and I think that if John Kerry is elected he will making Jimmy Carter look like an expert! This country needs to be postive and we should never be ashamed to show our patriotism nor our love for this country. She is the greatest place on the earth to live and I am damn proud to have served her and would anytime, anyplace.

[ROTC DAD]

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[Marine4life]

And you oppose us being there. Everything that I read in your post is true about Iraq and Sadaam. So what part of your own post do you not get. Double talk is normal talk in the liberal mind!! Show me one thing said that is not true about Iraq. All you have done is strengthen our position on the justification for this war. Thanks I appreciate the help. Semper Fi.
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Helicopter Marine Attack Squadron 169 which is now HMLA-169. They added Huey's to compliment the Cobra effectiveness. When I served we just had Snakes.

[kate]

ROTC Dad-- you forgot this quote:

Russia 'warned U.S. about Saddam'
Friday, June 18, 2004 Posted: 12:46 PM EDT (1646 GMT)
Putin says Russia warned the U.S. of planned attacks by Saddam's regime

MOSCOW, Russia (CNN) -- Russian intelligence services warned Washington several times that Saddam Hussein's regime planned terrorist attacks against the United States, President Vladimir Putin has said.

"I can confirm that after the events of September 11, 2001, and up to the military operation in Iraq, Russian special services and Russian intelligence several times received ... information that official organs of Saddam's regime were preparing terrorist acts on the territory of the United States and beyond its borders, at U.S. military and civilian locations," Putin said.

"This information was indeed passed on through our partner channels to our American colleagues"
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/06/18/russia.warning

Now that protected sources are revealed, there appears to be compelling reason for the concerns voiced about Iraq.
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