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Rurik PO3
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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ALLLL RIGHT!!!! USAFE5, you are with the program
Great detail work.
Only thing is, on that crew, I don't want to be the one doing the strip searches. :holding nose: _________________ Hating John Kerry continuously since 1971.
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USAFE5 PO2
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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And after they've paid - willingly or through seizure of assets in financial institutions here in the US or in Britain or in Ozland, then
WE NUKE THE SOB's _________________ "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I’m here to help." Ronald Reagan |
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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 972 Location: GUAM, USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:19 am Post subject: LWD |
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USAFE5 wrote: | And after they've paid - willingly or through seizure of assets in financial institutions here in the US or in Britain or in Ozland, then
WE NUKE THE SOB's |
The deck has always been stacked against the USA at the UN since the inception of the damned organization. Our only Ace in the Hole is our Veto Power in the Security Council. If we didn’t have this Power Israel would be nothing more than a smoking hole in the desert and Ara Scum would have died and been buried in Jerusalem.
We have tossed Billions into this worthless organization and gotten nothing in return except bovine defecation from Kofi Annan and his coalition of the bribed on the Security Council. I hope “the food for grub scandal” is the final nail in the coffin of this failed exercise in futility.
I believe we need a new organization to occupy the UN building. Help me out here to pick a name and establish a charter.
My choice for a name: Legion of World Democracies
Membership: Established Democratic governments that support the ridding of the world of terrorism, communism, socialism or any other darn ism there is in the world. If you spilled blood or spent treasure in the war on terror you are welcome (as long as your country is not an ism).
Goal/s: Promote the spread of democracy around the world and freedom for all citizens on Planet Earth. Take action when needed to remove repressive governments by any and all means necessary.
The LWD promises to feed, provide clothes, educate and house each child in need and protect them from harm. Education will be provided in schools staffed by teachers from LWD countries to ensure an education without prejudice.
Foreign Aid or Assistance is never given to a country that is an ism, unless they are attempting to not be an ism and free their people.
Establish English as the world language so there are no misunderstandings in the translation. French is never spoken.
Etc…etc….etc… _________________ Retired AF E-8
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scotty61 LCDR
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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I get a kick out of the conspiracy nuts and their black UN helocopters. This is an organization that can't even do a decent job at graft and they are going to dominate the world? Spare me! _________________ John Kerry. A Neville Chamberlain for our times. |
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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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scotty61 wrote: | I get a kick out of the conspiracy nuts and their black UN helocopters. This is an organization that can't even do a decent job at graft and they are going to dominate the world? Spare me! |
Kofi Annan acts like he is High Potentate of the world order and the UN staff as a whole see themselves as more important than they really are in the scheme of things. The UN was corrupt long before the “Oil for Grub” scandal broke and has violated human rights many times. We need to rethink as a Nation our support for such a failed organization. _________________ Retired AF E-8
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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:53 pm Post subject: U.N. accused of rape, pedophilia, prostitution |
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To confirm what I said in the post above here is a WND article confirming what I have been saying:
U.N. accused of rape, pedophilia, prostitution
Civilians, staff in Congo under internal investigation
Posted: November 24, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
The United Nations claims it is investigating about 150 allegations of sexual abuse by U.N. civilian staff and soldiers in the Congo, some of them recorded on videotape.
The charges include accusations of pedophilia, rape and prostitution, said Jane Holl Lute, an assistant secretary-general in the peacekeeping department.
Lute, an American, said there was photographic and video evidence for some of the allegations and most of the charges came to light since the spring.
In May the United Nations reported some 30 cases of abuse among peacekeepers in the northeastern town of Bunia, where half of the more than 10,000 soldiers are stationed.
The U.N. internal oversight office is expected to release a report soon on the abuse in Bunia. In addition, the peacekeeping department is sending at least two other teams to Congo to deal with various aspects of the problem, Lute said.
But the United Nations is not known for its forthrightness and candor in such internal investigations. The agency has been criticized for ignoring evidence or wrongdoing in the past – including accusations of rape and murder by "peacekeepers."
In fact, previous revelations of peacekeeping abuses have only been revealed by news organizations. Such was the case in Cambodia in the early 1990s and later in Somalia, Bosnia and Ethiopia.
"I am afraid there is clear evidence that acts of gross misconduct have taken place," said Secretary-General Kofi Annan. "This is a shameful thing for the United Nations to have to say, and I am absolutely outraged by it."
Annan said the allegations concerned a small number of U.N. personnel and promised to hold those involved accountable.
"I have long made it clear that my attitude to sexual exploitation and abuse is one of zero tolerance, without exception, and I am determined to implement this policy in the most transparent manner," Annan said.
Annan was criticized last week by United Nations workers who recorded a no-confidence vote against top leadership of the global body in what was seen as a direct swipe at his tenure. The Oil-for-Food scandal has given the U.N. such a black eye that there is talk among U.N. insiders that Annan may not serve out his second term ending in 2006.
But the new charges of rape and pedophilia by U.N. troops and workers in Congo may prove even more sensational. It's hardly the first scandal involving U.N. workers and troops in Africa.
Former United Nations Secretary-General Boutros Boutros-Ghali's tenure was marked by scandalous charges that he played a leading role in supplying weapons to the Hutu regime that carried out a campaign of genocide against the Tutsi tribe in 1994.
As minister of foreign affairs in Egypt, Boutros-Ghali facilitated an arms deal in 1990, which was to result in $26 million of mortar bombs, rocket launchers, grenades and ammunition being flown from Cairo to Rwanda. The arms were used by Hutus in attacks which led to up to a million deaths. The role of Boutros-Ghali, who was in charge at the U.N. when it turned its back on the killings in 1994, was revealed in a book by Linda Melvern. In "A People Betrayed: The Role of the West in Rwanda's Genocide," Boutros-Ghali admits his role in approving an initial $5.8 million arms deal in 1990, which led to Egypt supplying arms to Rwanda until 1992. He says he approved it because it was his job as foreign minister to sell weapons for Egypt.
Back in 1997, there were reports Belgian U.N. troops roasted a Somali boy. A military court reportedly sentenced two paratroopers to a month in jail and a fine of 200 pounds for the offense.
Another Belgian soldier reportedly forced a young Somali to eat pork, drink salt water and then eat his own vomit. Another sergeant was accused of murdering a Somali whom he was photographed urinating upon. Another child, accused of stealing food from the paratroopers' base, died after being locked in a storage container for 48 hours. Fifteen other members of the same regiment were investigated in 1995 for "acts of sadism and torture" against Somali civilians.
The pattern of abuse was not confined to Belgian troops. Belgium was actually the third country in the peacekeeping group to charge troops with serious crimes against Somali citizens -- including rape, torture and murder. In 1995, a group of Canadian paratroopers were investigated for torturing a Somali to death and killing three others.
Gruesome photos were published in a Milan magazine of Italian soldiers torturing a Somali youth and abusing and raping a Somali girl.
Paratroopers claim they were specifically trained in methods of torture to aid interrogation. According to one witness, Italian soldiers tied a young Somali girl to the front of an armored personnel carrier and raped her while officers looked on.
Few other news agencies – especially in the United States – have devoted any coverage to these atrocities. The Village Voice was one notable exception.
The South China Morning Post published an AFP report about an Italian battalion commander who sexually abused and strangled a 13-year-old Somali boy. There are also allegations that, in 1993, Italian soldiers beat seven suspected Somali thieves, killing one; that they beat to death a 14-year-old boy who sold a false medal and beat a couple in a car.
Why do we continue to support this failed experiment? _________________ Retired AF E-8
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Rurik PO3
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 251 Location: Daschle-cleansed Free South Dakota
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:05 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Why do we continue to support this failed experiment? |
Because that would mean admitting it was a bad idea in the first place.  _________________ Hating John Kerry continuously since 1971.
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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Rurik wrote: | Quote: | Why do we continue to support this failed experiment? |
Because that would mean admitting it was a bad idea in the first place.  |
Your absolutely right! _________________ Retired AF E-8
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USAFE5 PO2
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 362 Location: Reno Nevada
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 8:08 am Post subject: |
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PhantomSgt wrote: | Rurik wrote: | Quote: | Why do we continue to support this failed experiment? |
Because that would mean admitting it was a bad idea in the first place.  |
Your absolutely right! |
But it came after another bad experiment - League of Nations.
And I thought you were to learn from failed experiments and move on to new ones - not just keep repeating the same one hoping for different results. _________________ "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I’m here to help." Ronald Reagan |
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Rurik PO3
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 251 Location: Daschle-cleansed Free South Dakota
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:32 am Post subject: |
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USAFE5 wrote: | But it came after another bad experiment - League of Nations.
And I thought you were to learn from failed experiments and move on to new ones - not just keep repeating the same one hoping for different results. |
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.
The only thing more invincible is the stupidity of a high-minded intellectual. _________________ Hating John Kerry continuously since 1971.
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USAFE5 PO2
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 362 Location: Reno Nevada
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:19 am Post subject: |
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Rurik wrote: |
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.
The only thing more invincible is the stupidity of a high-minded intellectual. |
ahem...( in my best Forrest Gump voice)
Stupid is as stupid does _________________ "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I’m here to help." Ronald Reagan |
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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:22 am Post subject: HELP |
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Say that we as a Nation decide to extricate ourselves from the UN and their programs around the world, how do we minimize the impact here at home?
Much of the food sent to UN feed the hungry programs is grown by farmers right here in the USA.
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USAFE5 PO2
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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We grow the food that feeds the world. We pay farmers not to grow food to artifically effect the market prices. These programs seem to conflict. I think we should keeo growing food and have our own food program for the world's hungry. We should eliminate the payments to famers not to grow foods, except when the farm is a family enterprise rather than an industrial conglomerate. If your a leader in a nation that we send foodstuffs to I would expect, not demand, that you support us, and if we have modified the genetics of that food to allow a larger crop or to resist pests, this is not harmful it is a good thing. We will continue to feed the hungry no matter what Governments may come or go, as that is what is right by God's rules and they take precident over man's rules everyday. _________________ "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I’m here to help." Ronald Reagan |
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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:46 pm Post subject: MMMMMMMMMMM |
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How about istituting America's "Food for Oil Program".  _________________ Retired AF E-8
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scotty61 LCDR
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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USAFE5, I don't want to start a big debate over this, but I'm unaware of any current govt. program that pays farmers not to grow wheat, barley, oats, corn, soybeans or any other grain. There is the CRP (Conservation Reserve Program) which takes some land out of production, but that land has to be highly erodable to qualify. The farmer then has to plant it to grass or trees to prevent wind erosion and keep it free of noxious weeds for the term of the contract, usually ten years.
Wheat, by and large is and has been at a worldwide price of $3.00 a bushel since about the start of NAFTA. This is an artificially low price and is held in place not by the US, but by our buddies in France and Germany as well as other nations such as Brazil, Canada, Argentina, Austrailia and New Zealand. These nations heavily subsidize their agriculture and are our competitors in the world market. They believe in preserving their own agriculture systems and to help pay for the subsidies, dump their excess grain at prices below the cost of production. They do this to keep and maintain market share.
Since wheat markets below the cost of production, most farmers here grow it onlybecause they need it in their rotation plans between profitable crops such as soybeans.
Why then is the Farm Bill so expensive? Much of it has nothing to do with farmers. The great percentage of it pays for govt. bereaucracies and their attendant programs. Things like food stamps and school lunches are paid for out of the farm bill.
I didn't want to go off topic to this degree, but as a former farmer I see and hear so many misconceptions about this and I just wanted to set the record straight. _________________ John Kerry. A Neville Chamberlain for our times. |
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