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coldwarvet
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Navy_Navy_Navy wrote:
I'm listening to these procedings through a bug-induced fever and still boiling mad.

When she says that she will educate herself about a matter with which she is not comfortable providing answers, today (world currency) she is lectured like a child and the derision barely disguised.

This reminds me of the 911 Commission hearings.... where are the elephants and horseback riders and the trapeze artists?

The grilling that this prospective Sec of State is much deeper than I've ever seen - even Colin Powell wasn't expected to know some of the things that Dr. Rice has been expected to know.

Can't help but grin when she gets one in there of her own, though. I missed the one about Germany, so thanks. Wink

Go Condi - the chattering monkeys are making themselves apparent, posturing as ringmasters. And so are the horses - at least the parts of their anatomies that are on the south end, going north. Wink

And Condi herself may be the trapeze artist - swinging through all the bullsnit, making the appropriate catches and changes in direction with aplomb. And while I haven't watched the entire day, I haven't seen her fall, once. Smile




PS - I think Levin is going for the Ben Franklin look.... and missing. He resembles nothing so much as a weasel who needs glasses.


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Navy Navy Navy your creative writting style most always makes me chuckel. Even when you are running a fever. Perhaps you could capture the best of what has been written in this forum and write a book. I would love to get an autographed copy.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the contrary, I hope the world is watching. It is very evident what a
brilliant, well-spoken, politically savy person that Condi Rice is. It is
just as evident what petty, ill-informed, grand-standing buffoons the
Dems are. I am very proud to have such an outstanding person represent
America as Secretary of State and I am very thankful to have a POTUS
that chose her because she was the best person for the job and not
because he had to fill a minority/female slot in his cabinet.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:41 am    Post subject: Condi Reply with quote

I think Kerry can be used as a great contrary indicator.

Whatever he does, do the opposite and you'll be right on, everytime. He is such a loser that you can depend on his instincts and behaviour to always be on the wrong side of history.

Kerry will not vote to support Condi and that's a good sign.

I firmly believe that this means Condi is going to get in that job and kick ass. She will be acknowledged as one of the country's best ever in the important job of Secretary of State.

She will do such a great job and be remembered so well in history and John Kerry will once again be the dunce and loser that he is and be remembered as a Senator who did not vote to confirm Condi.

It is Kerry's destiny. The guy is always wrong.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:02 am    Post subject: Re: I prefer Reply with quote

AMOS wrote:
I prefer Barnum and Bailey, they have better clowns. Hope the whole world isn't watching. How embarrassing. To think of the money we pay these no-minds............just shoot me.

Me too!


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem with all this harrassment of Dr. Rice is that foreign observers take it seriously and think that these jerks speak for the American people. Few in the U.S. take these dog and pony shows for much more than they are - opportunities for our elected representatives to preen for the cameras. Condi Rice shows way more class and intelligence than her inquisitors.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:13 pm    Post subject: Prison guard. Reply with quote

Should Senasstor Bloxer ever tire of trying to be a government employee, she could always try her hand as a prison guard.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kerry said he hasn't made up his mind yet whether he will vote
to confirm Rice. What's the quandary? He is obviously portraying
her as giving bad advice to the President. So you would think he
would vote against her (to please the left).
However, if he runs for Prez in 2008, he doesn't want to be hung
with having voted against the FIRST BLACK WOMAN to be nominated
for SecState. Which way will he go??
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kerry just said he will not vote for her!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:19 pm    Post subject: Flip Flop Reply with quote

Won't be long before Skerry will say he's voting for her.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

depotoo wrote:
kerry just said he will not vote for her!


He will vote for her before he votes against her or vice versa.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He will vote for her before he votes against her or vice versa.



AAArg! You said it before I got my two cents in!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr. Rice is brilliant; she can articulate the broadest most detailed information of what is going on in the world. I can't think of another individual in any party who even comes close to her ability. And the left can't think of anyone that will match her ability either. The left is desperate to undermine her because she represents the eight years that will follow the Bush eight years. They can not stand the thought of being out of power for the next twelve years.

So the left sends the regular players that are safely nested into blue states to carry the water and tear down yet another great servant of the United States of America.

Their strategy will not work and in 2009 Dr. Rice will be sworn in as President Rice.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What made an impression to me watching the confirmation hearing for Rice was her erudite nature as opposed to the block heads giving her questions. Is it just me or the dummies ask a prepared question one of their brilliant staffers prepared for them then Rice answers posing a challenge to the block head to then think on his or her own terms. At this point the block has been chopped and Rice just sits there elequent and composed, but I know damn well if she could she would love to laugh her ass off. You can see just a glint of I want to laugh at your block headeness. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ms. Boxer is very foolish to question Ms. Rice about the quality of WMD intelligence from the CIA. Four years ago, the CIA was infested with Clinton personnal, upholding a "do not leave the office" form of gathering of the intelligence information. The head of the agency was George Tenant, a Clinton man- and he was probably happier under a decisive Bush administration. As Reagon had to bring in Casey to clean up a toothless CIA, now Bush has to bring in Goss put teeth back in. Unfortunately Boxer and Kerry can say any stupid grandstand thing as long as the voters continue to elect them as Senators. Along with Kennedy, they all have very safe Senate seats. (In four more years the democrats can have Jesse vouch for their character in a few churches so the minorities will vote for the another donkey)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Ed at Captains Quarters took Boxer apart yesterday.
It is soooo good I thought you would enjoy it! (Boxer in bold)


Opening Her Mouth And Removing All Doubt

Sometimes I wonder if Barbara Boxer ever listens to herself and cringes. If so, yesterday certainly provided opportunities for winces galore as the senator from California kept providing evidence of her status as one of the least intelligent members of the upper chamber. In just her opening statement for her portion of Condoleezza Rice's confirmation hearing, she managed to embarrass herself and her constituents multiple times:

Dr. Rice, before I get to my formal remarks, you no doubt will be confirmed -- that's at least what we think.

We think there's no doubt? And her favorite color is plaid, too.

And if you're going to become the voice of diplomacy -- this is just a helpful point -- when Senator Voinovich mentioned the issue of tsunami relief, you said -- your first words were, "The tsunami was a wonderful opportunity for us." Now, the tsunami was one of the worst tragedies of our lifetime -- one of the worst -- and it's going to have a 10-year impact on rebuilding that area. I was very disappointed in your statement. I think you blew the opportunity. You mention it as part of one sentence.

So not only does Boxer deliberately misinterpret the word "wonderful" as a qualifier to "tsunami" instead of "opportunity" unlike any rational interpretation of that phrase, she admits that she took the quote out of context. In fact, Rice never said "wonderful opportunity" at all. Here's what she said about tsunami relief:

"We're spending billions to fight AIDS and tuberculosis and malaria and other diseases, to alleviate suffering for millions and help end public health crises. America has always been generous in helping countries recover from natural disasters and today we are providing money and personnel to ease the suffering of the millions afflicted by the tsunami and to help rebuild those nations' infrastructure."

I've searched the entire transcript for the words tsunami, wonderful, and opportunity, and Rice simply never made the statement Boxer alleges. She lied.

And I would hope to work with you on this, because children are suffering, we're worried they're going to get in the sex trade.

"Get into" the sex trade? We're worried that they will be stolen and forced into the sex trade. However, since the sex trade happens to be one of California's leading industries -- they produce about 90% of all the pornography in the US -- I think Boxer may have wanted to soften her stance on the issue.

I am -- Dr. Rice, I was glad you mentioned Martin Luther King -- it was very appropriate, given everything.

There's nothing like a rich white woman giving her approval of a black woman's reference to Dr. King to define the term "limousine liberal."

And one of the things that matters most to my people in California and the people in America is this war in Iraq.
Now, it took you to page three of your testimony to mention the word "Iraq." You said very little really about it, and only in the questioning have we been able to get into some areas. Perhaps you agree with President Bush, who said all that's been resolved. I'm quoting today's Post: "Bush said in an interview last week with the Washington Post that the '04 election was a moment of accountability for the decisions he made in Iraq." But today's Washington Post/ABC poll found that 58 percent disapprove of his handling of the situation, to 40 percent who approve -- and only 44 percent said the war was worth fighting.



Well, which is it, Senator? Because we held this really big poll in November with a sample size of 120 million voters, and they re-elected George Bush 51-48. Either your poll numbers are off, or it's not the biggest issue on the mind of American voters. Since the Democrats and John Kerry made the election all about Iraq, I'd say that Bush has a fair interpretation on the meaning of his victory.

I don't know if you saw the movie, "The Fog of War" -- war is a nightmare, you know that. Colin Powell I think was the most eloquent I've heard on it, because he's seen it himself -- he's been there and done it. And I don't want to have you in a circumstance where you're writing something years later about the fog of war.

Another California industry reference that explains Barbara Boxer: everything she knows she learned from the movies. Perhaps Boxer doesn't understand that Rice wasn't the Secretary of Defense, although she can be excused on this point, as none of the Democratic senators were briefed on this point. One after the other, they grilled Rice on troop levels as if she was a member of the military chain of command. She kept telling them that her job did not involve that kind of analysis, but by God they had someone on the stand they could use to score cheap shots, and all of them took that, er, wonderful opportunity to do so.

Perhaps the people of California will review this transcript and understand what an idiot they have representing them in the Senate. Unfortunately, the people of Minnesota have the same problem with their senior Senator as well. I hope that we react better in 2006 than Californians did in 2004.

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