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Stevie

ok, I was gonna say a million dollars.... Very Happy

that'd be good also!

but really, I'm looking for some research someone
posted here like a year ago about the statistics of
casualties to those who flew the same
plane Bush did....
and I have NO idea what to search under (here) except 'plane';
duh....

also, I'm looking for the NV communist agenda list. the 7 or 10 point
list that Kerry was following.... ; I searched here under 'communist agenda' and got over 800 threads!!!
I don't think my body, let alone my eyeballs, would survive reading thru
all of those!

anyone got any ideas of what I can use to search on that would refine
it a bit (a whole lotta 'bit' ) ??? Shocked

Is it any wonder I spend hours on the intenet and get nowhere???
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Stevie
Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should
be arrested, exiled or hanged.

GenrXr

Stevie · Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 3:26 am Post subject:

genrXr - thanks sooo much! that's it! been wanting that list....

now, does anyone know a better word to search on than 'plane' fo find
the doc / post giving the stats on casualties flying the plane that GWB
did in the Nat'l Guard?
I don't remember what the plane was called....
TIA
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Stevie
Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should
be arrested, exiled or hanged.

wonhyo · Seaman Apprentice Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 85

the plane info you are looking for is on page 178 Sat Aug 21 posted by llano - Bush & national guard- it is a locked topic down a couple of paragraphs, hope this helps

retire05 · Seaman Recruit Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 26

Stevie, all I can tell you is this. I have a friend who is retired (38 years) TXANG mechanic. He and I talked about the plane that Bush flew and he said that they used to call the thing a flying coffin. He told me that two pilots died during training at Ellington AFB in Houston flying the very plane Bush did. He said that the pilots knew that the plane was inferior in many ways, but it was a really sweet plane to fly. Just probably the most dangerous of all planes the ANG had. The plane was an interceptor, mainly used for runs that would guard against an Soviet air strike. Runs were made from Tx. to Canada and back.
He also told me that the pilots had the respect of all who worked with them because of the dangerousness of the plane itself. A one seater death trap.
I will call him and see if I can find out where to get the records you are wanting.

GenrXr · Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 3:52 am Post subject:

Stevie check out this link,

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0185.shtml

Stevie · Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:13 am Post subject:

oh wow! you guys are just awesome....

I should be able to narrow in on p 178!

and genrXr - that aerospace site piece is awesome for what I need it!

got a bunch of young liberal females who just called me

that bad word that starts with a F and ing ... and stupid at the end of it.

then, 'silly' and 'blowing hot air'

regarding how dangerous this plane was to fly....

'course, they are good at calling people names.... just not good
at having facts to back up what they say.

their a nasty bunch.... much take lessons from Howard Dean, Ted Kennedy, O'Donnell, etc...

and gee, I just love it when I'm right!!!

thanks!
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Stevie
Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should
be arrested, exiled or hanged.

GenrXr · Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:22 am Post subject:

Stevie · Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:00 am Post subject:

and I thank you many times over for your help!

and thanks for the reminder to stick to the facts. that's what I try to do.

And that's why I wanted this info. I knew I'd read it here waaay back
when but my memory failed me on what the plane was called!
searching just 'plane' was ridiculous! Especially with my bad eye sight!
(I'm not good at searching anyway... but, I keep trying. Figure one of
these days, I'll get better at it).

I wanted to be ready for them with the info to back me up....not that
they asked for it. They don't care. Actually, they reminded me of O'Donnell screaming 'liar, liar' on MSNBC!!! LOL!

sometimes it is hard when they are calling you names etc.... ; I try to remember then, that IF THEY HAD ANY FACTS, they wouldn't have to
resort to calling me names! Very Happy

Well, I'm off to the pits of hell now....but, I'm 'armed' with facts.
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Stevie
Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should
be arrested, exiled or hanged.

kate · Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:04 am Post subject:

Stevie,

re llano source referenced above...

llano's post at Sat Aug 21, 2004 11:33 pm
Post subject: Bush and the Nat'l Guard here
links to, and quotes from, www.aerospaceweb.org/

which GenrXr has kindly provided for you
digging to page 178 not needed Wink

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