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kate Admin
Joined: 14 May 2004 Posts: 1891 Location: Upstate, New York
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:15 am Post subject: |
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how...did the Dems get their hands on these records?
I know some things are public records, ie credit reports
but some things are not public, ie medical records
and I assume the military,
since Kerrry wont release his..how did he get theirs??
color me confused _________________ .
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LOC1 Seaman Recruit
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Suggest that the Swifties talk with Col. Oliver North. He has a high level of credibility, has been through personal attacks by the media, and knows the ropes.
It would be wonderful if he would take up the cause of the Swifties. He could advance the knowledge of sKerry's fabrications very effectively. |
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rua Seaman Recruit
Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 27 Location: Tennessee
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:49 am Post subject: |
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Last I heard credit reports are not public records unless you've given the person who collected the reports your social security number (which are private to prevent among other things identity theft). I'd suggest putting in very plain english any attempt to smear your names using illegally obtained information will be taken seriously and charges will be filed. Libel and slander are illegal, bordering on federal offense, make it very clear you will not tolerate it. |
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rua Seaman Recruit
Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 27 Location: Tennessee
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:52 am Post subject: |
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Actually now that I think about it, I'd even go so far as contacting federal authorities with this just to cover your bases. You might be opposed to Kerry but that doesn't exclude you from your rights as Americans to be protected from such malicious attempts. |
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low26 Lieutenant
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 219 Location: Chicago il
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:02 am Post subject: |
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Medical and credit records are private and obtaining them without permission is illegal,The only financial records I can think of that are public is bankruptcy |
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:21 am Post subject: |
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Maybe that's why they've carefully inventoried them and know exactly to whom they have consigned each copy of the book.
Reporters cannot be forced to reveal their sources, remember? _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
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carpro Admin
Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1176 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Just speculation here, but I would guess that with the right Washington connections, the SS# of all former military personnel could be obtained.
With that number, the rest would be easy. _________________ "If he believes his 1971 indictment of his country and his fellow veterans was true, then he couldn't possibly be proud of his Vietnam service." |
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dansch Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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It should NOT be easy to obtain medical records even with an SS#. They are protected under HIPAA with real jail penalties and fines (up to $250,000, I believe).
If that sort of information is released without the consent of the individual to anyone other than a healthcare provider, we're talking real lawbreaking. |
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carpro Admin
Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1176 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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It's been a long time since I was in the insurance business, but there used to be a data base called Medical Information Bureau (MIB). Anyone with the right connections could get a lot of info from just one partisan insurance executive.
To face legal consequences, they have to be caught.  _________________ "If he believes his 1971 indictment of his country and his fellow veterans was true, then he couldn't possibly be proud of his Vietnam service." |
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dansch Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Those databased are secured a lot better now, or their owners are facing the above penalties.
But you're right, catching them is a necessary step. |
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fortdixlover Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 1476
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: DNC about to counter-attack (smear alert) |
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mattv_ct wrote: | Just so everyone is ready to fight the Left's attack machine:
"“We have prepared what we call ‘Brown Books’ that contain damaging military records, personal credit histories, medical histories, psychiatric histories, divorce records, you name it,” our source told us. The “Brown Books” are so-called because of their distinctive plain brown covers, which contain no words. Some books have already been delivered to Kerry-friendly reporters. Others are on their way, our source told us. When asked if we could have a copy, our source declined, saying there is a limited number of “Brown Books” and they have been carefully inventoried to control in whose hands the books ended up."
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I doubt this is true. Release of such information (for example, credit histories, psychiatric histories) would be an indefensible, tortious invasion of privacy of private citizens (the SwiftVets). The perpetrators would likely go to jail and lose everything they owned.
I, for one, as a physician, would be happy to assist plaintiffs as an expert witness on medical information confidentiality under the HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability) act - a.k.a. the bill covering increased medical privacy, among other areas, spearheaded by none other than Teddy Kennedy!
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