SwiftVets.com

[RocketFett]

Not that it will matter to his pompous majesty, but this is what I wrote to him:

Because of your vicious and disrespectful dismissal of the SWIFT Boat Vets for truth, I will no longer be watching your show anymore, unless and until you aplogize for the fact that you were really out of line with them. Comparing them to soros and moore is really out of line. Not only do they have first hand knowledge of kerry, where as soros and moore do not, these men number in the hundreds and growing ever day, and their accusations are without legitimate challenge by kerry, and they wouldn't have come forward had he not become the candidate for President, but he forced them to come forward by using their images, and lying about events that they witnessed first hand. If you really had a no spin zone, you would have rationally allowed their side to be presented and actually find out if there is something to their story. My father is a SWIFT boat vet during that same period of time in question, and the arrogant comment that they should "move on" is unacceptable. As though you are qualified to even make it, you never served, thank you very much. This movement is gaining huge ammounts of steam and forceing the media to ask questions of kerry that he is not prepered to answer because he knows he is lying, and you clearly haven't even noticed that. Valid and critical questions are being asked of kerry that are only being asked BECAUSE of the SWIFT Vets. So, Thank you, and goodbye. You lost a lot of viewers over your misktake on this issue, and until now, I did respect you as being a legitimately fair and open minded moderate. You have effectively disproven that now.

Sincerely, Allen Heidt.
Houston, TX

[SonTestedShelter]

Allen, what part of Houston do you live in?? I live in Pearland, southwest of Houston.

[Doc Jerry]

Army Wife:

I sense your frustration with many of the commentators regarding military isses when they never served, but the the SBV's need to have high profile names batting for them in the media. They can't rely on the "media elite." Rush, Sean and the entire Salem Radio Network reach millions daily. It gets the issue out to people who would not hear about it otherwise.

Keep the faith. Hell has been unleashed and the Kerry campaign is in a sweat.









Go Air Force!!! Medics, we're there when you need us.

[ASPB]

Only if we send our best posts to the MSM media. Pressure!
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[Theresa Alwood]

I am finished witn O'Reilly and I will e-mail as such. I was listening to the radio factor and he called us a bunch of "right wing nuts". He just does not understand why we are against John Kerry. He likes Teresa Heinz-Kerry...so that in itself should wonder where O'Reilly is going. O'Reilly forget that the reason he is (hopefully was) so popular is because of us "right wing nuts" who listen to talk radio and watched his O'Reilly factor. Ratings will make a difference.

I am insulted that just because I am against John Kerry O'Reilly thinks that we are so far to the right. I am a moderate republican, but only became a republican so I could vote in the primary.

O'Reilly does not "get it" why the vets....all vets, not just only the swiftvets, are again John Kerry! Well he has lost me as a viewer!
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[NavyBrat]

I sent in my "Report Card" of OReilly's performance aka No SPIN. He can call me a Right Wing nut all he wants if that soothes his FAT ego for being caught NOT doing his Homework. Bottom line, He FAiled..miserably
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[ArmyWife]

Well RocketFett, maybe I overreacted about Limbaugh. I know that he IS coming around slowly. He still bases a lot of what he says not on the credibility of the SwiftVets, but more on the Kerry campaign's lack of rebuttal. I know that sometime this week I heard him refer to the SwiftVets as the "first Republican 527 group to come along". I didn't like that because, if people think that the Bush campaign is running this thing, the SwiftVets could theoretically lose their status. Besides, I have seen it mentioned in this forum that some of them are Democrats.

[d19thdoc]

My email to O'Reilly:

Bill,

John Kerry behaved heroically, he behaved recklessly, and he lied about a lot of it - then and now. It is entirely possible to be courageous and to be dishonorable. Wasn't Michael Corleone incredibly courageous in that restaurant in the Bronx when he shot the evil police captain and the evil drug lord? Was he an honorable man at the same time? Courage, decency, honor, these are not mutually inclusive categories.

The devil is in the details. No one in the media is interested in the details of these events, because they get in the way of pre-judgments dearly held. The difference between a Bronze Star and a Silver Star is judged every day by the military in war time. The difference is determined by the details. As is the difference between a Bronze Star and no award. Does it matter if Kerry's boat was under intense enemy fire when he picked Rassmann up, or under no enemy fire at all. You bet it does. That's the difference between courage under fire, and a routine recovery. There is a difference between charging a numerically superior force under intense enemy fire, and chasing one lone kid with a single shot rocket who is already wounded, then shooting him down. Those are the different versions being offered, and while the core acts are not disputed, the details are.

There is often a lot of shooting going on in land mine and apparent follow-on ambush situations. And more often than you'd imagine, it is all coming from the friendly side. In fact, "friendly-fire" casualties are regular features of all too many military engagements. Take two to six boats all bobbing around in a river after an underwater mine goes off and one boat is badly damaged, all its crew is wounded and some are overboard.

There is such a thing as a ticket punching medal hound. No one really can doubt that John Kerry sought out decorations. No truly honorable military man does that. Actually, the opposite is often the rule. Special Ops guys actually have an unwritten code of not being put in for awards and medals at all, no matter what the circumstances.

These things are hard to grasp for anyone who "was not there" or who was never in the military. Saying the Swift Boat Vets who are attacking Kerry "did not serve with him" as is claimed is simply ludicrous. The guy's commanding officer did not serve with him? All (except one who is for him and four who will not take a stand and two who are dead) of his peer ensigns and lieutenants did not serve with him? Seventeen of them? He used their photo together to promote his candidacy, and now all his spokespersons scream they did not serve with him? What happened to Truth-in-Labeling?

Innumerable Vietnam Vets who deserved medals did not get them. Some are just getting them now, including Medals of Honor. I was involved in a missed-award case personally, and went to the award ceremonies I was instrumental in arranging last year. Does it not stand to reason that some who did get medals did not deserve them? Because the Navy endorsed a piece of paper does not guarantee that it was based on truthful representations. Anyone who has served can tell you how reliable much military paperwork is. Didn't a very senior Navy Admiral recently commit suicide over wearing a decoration he had not earned?

Coming down on both sides of this is too easy an out for you. Do the work of reading the book. What it alleges is coincidentally so congruent with what we do know of Kerry's "embellishments" and "over-the-tops" and "inappropriate words" that one might see the beginning of a pattern there.

What scares most political and media people about this is that, if it is all really true, then Kerry is actually a deliberate fraud, or not in touch with reality, or not concerned with reality; and the party system, and all the money that politics generates, and all the "access" that money buys for powerful people, now means nothing. It is all nothing more than a Hollywood fantasy, up for grabs to any empty suit. Private individuals, armed with the Internet and some modest money, can destroy a national candidacy. No more power brokers, no more big money influence, no more major media preeminence. That's why it is essential for all of these groups to join forces to destroy this story.

Very little actual refutation is going on - most of it is ad hominem attacks. That also suggests the insubstantial ground on which Kerry stands.

And . . . all of this leaves out his post-war career. He did not just protest the war, you know. He switched sides. Read his Senate testimony (7/22/72) about his meetings in Paris with the VC and the North Vietnamese, and read also in that testimony his support for their line, as published by them in Paris in June of 1972 - same points, two months before the communists published them. My, what a coincidence.
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[Doc Farmer]

[4moreyears]

Just put Bill's e-mail into address book...thanks Doc.
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kerry returned to the United States on July 22, 1971, held a press conference publicly calling on President Nixon... for the surrender of the United States to North Vietnam.

[4moreyears]

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No big deal...he's rapidly becoming persona non grata with me.
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kerry returned to the United States on July 22, 1971, held a press conference publicly calling on President Nixon... for the surrender of the United States to North Vietnam.

[arjr111]

Great letter, d19thdoc!

O'Reilly loves to brag about being a Harvard Graduate, but apparently like so many others that avoided serving, it appears that he is sorely lacking in his knowledge of Military Comraderie, Military Applications, Strategic Military Operatons in Vietnam, and the effects of demoralizaion on the Military in general.

Furthermore, "Mr. No Spin" seems unable to fathom that it was socio-political pressure orchestrated by Soviet Propanda, and embraced by the VVAW, that caused the US. to walk away from Vietnam, and further caused the loss of morale of troops still serving "in-country", and the increased mistreatment of POWs. O'Reilly, like so many others is ignoring the effect that Senator Kerry and his group had on that PLANNED demoralization, and that it most likely, led to the deaths, of some of our bothers still serving in country.

Not surprisingly, HE like the rest of the MSM, have only been paying lip-service to the soldiers that have sacrificed, and continue to sacrifice, to allow HIM and the MSM the freedom, to continue to dishonor Vietnam Vets and brave serving military brothers, by shooting off mouths, and NOT researching the issue to get to the truth!

This is why it is SO IMPORTANT that the Swiftboat Vets, with their unique knowledge, HAMMER the media, with the truth regarding Kerry.
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[BenJaxBchFL]

My email to Bill:

Bill, what is most disappointing is the way you have deviated from your own set of rules. You have not given this organization a fair shake. Let's be honest, it's risky to acknowledge Swiftvets and then be wrong. But not acknowledging them and being wrong has much less downside for you. That is what is happening here and I have to say I have lost respect for you because of it. I hope you consider my assessment and reconsider your position. It would be the fair and balanced thing to do.

Benny Barrow
Jacksonville Beach, FL
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[4moreyears]