SwiftVets.com

[4moreyears]

THE SENATOR'S LINK: http://mccain.senate.gov/




Here is the link to the web site where your comments against the VN veterans is reviewed.

http://www.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2821


As an acclaimed war hero how do you feel about besmerching the honor of those others who served with valor? I think you ought to feel ashamed. By the way you were my first choice in 2000.

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Excerpt from MoveOn.org new advertisement:
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CUT TO HALF SCREEN PICTURE OF JOHN McCAIN. HIS WORDS APPEAR ON SCREEN NEXT TO HIS PICTURE.

ANNOUNCER: Here's what a true Republican war hero has to say about the anti-Kerry ad: "I think the ad is dishonest and dishonorable...I think the Bush campaign should specifically condemn the ad."
CUT TO SHOT OF BUSH AND CLOSING DISCLAIMER COPY. ANNOUNCER: George Bush: Take that ad off the air. MoveOn PAC is responsible for the content of this advertisement.

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HOW SOME OTHER VETS FEEL:
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Jack Mclaughlin
Member


Joined: 13 May 2004
Posts: 57

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 3:31 pm Post subject:

I new when Sen. McCain used those two words to describe us, ( dishonest and dishonorable ) they would use it again and again against us. He won`t issue an apology to us but I hope he has the courage to at least give them a public rebuke for using it since he now knows he attacked the wrong people.
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kerry returned to the United States on July 22, 1971, held a press conference publicly calling on President Nixon... for the surrender of the United States to North Vietnam.

[Polaris]

Sisku,

You said:

[ccr]

I really want to see factcheck.org do a number on this ad.

There are a very large number of extremely false statements in the ad and they do not attack the substance of the SBVT ad.

This ad is really good news. It will keep SBVT & UFC in the news.
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Whose side is John Kerry really on? Take this quiz and decide for yourself.

http://www.learnthat.com/quiz/

[You GottaBeKidding]

Polaris,

The stupidity that is rampant on DU continues to amaze me. Michael Moore had that bunch of Americans pegged.

One of them put togther an "ad" about lying -- photos of Bush, Cheney, Rice, and Rumsfeld, each with statements they made about WMD and the caption "He lied" (or "She lied").

Needless to say, there was no photo of Kerry with any of the several similar statements he made.

They're also still yapping about the "forged" uranium documents that Joe Wilson used as "evidence" that Iraq hadn't tried to buy uranium. Never mind that the 9/11 commission concluded otherwise and Joe Wilson has been exposed as a liar.

Sheeple (and that's giving sheep, which I like, a very bad name).

[Me#1You#10]

"Beldar" is already on top of this with an interesting insight on his Blog.

[Polaris]

People,

Don't underestimate those folks at DU. They are cunning, clever, and yes smart (in their own way) political operators, and they are often hellishly well informed. [I strongly suspect that they have connections with the inner councils of the DNC, but I can't prove it.]

The thing that gets them though is this: They sincerely believe that they are warriors for the TRUTH....and never mind if a few inconvient facts get in the way (which can after all be altered or spun).

-Polaris
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-Polaris

Truth is Beauty

[integritycounts]

Well MoveOn.org just assured that these questions will be asked during the debates.

[Scott]

integritycounts,

I agree with Beldar's conclusion to his recent post: MoveOn's ad has done worse (for them and the Democrats) than that; they've guaranteed that the Mainstream Media will now have to look at the Swiftvets' ad and John O'Neill's book.

Because the MSM know that, while they can ignore a 527 like Swiftvets, if they ignore George Soros' pet tarantula, they'll get bitten.
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Bye bye, Boston Straggler!

[bach04]

Speaking of those liberal 527 organizations which the mainstream media has "ignored," I came across this list of the top contributors to various 527 organizations ( including the moveon.org ). Guess what, it appears that top contributors are liberal operatives who had funneled MILLIONS of dollars in various anti-family, anti-religion left wing organizations. Sorry if this list had been posted before, but obviously, the mainstream media had decided to attack even the 25 dollar contributions made to this site by hard working Americans as part of the republican conspiracy. It is thus imperative that for the sake of the future of this country, that Kerry must not be elected; as the evidence clearly shows that the ideology and resournces that support these organizations will be indoctrinated into Kerry's politicies.


The link is:
http://membership.publicintegrity.org/527/search.aspx?act=con&sec=indiv&sub=topindiv



The chart below shows the total amount of money contributed by individual donors giving $400,000 or more to 527 committees since August 2000 (and their spouses in some cases). Click donor name for a brief profile and details on giving.

Individual Amount Contributed
Lewis, Peter B. $14,175,000
Soros, George and Susan W. $13,120,000
Fonda, Jane $13,085,750
Bing, Stephen L. $9,869,014
Harris IV, John A. $4,091,500
Messinger, Alida R. $3,571,000
Rappaport, Andrew S. & Deb $2,489,000
Hunting, John R. $1,944,000
Kirsch, Steven T. $1,845,000
Varis, Agnes $1,790,844
Gund, Louise L. $1,728,600
Buttenwieser, Peter L. $1,663,535
Cullman, Lewis B. & Dorothy $1,650,000
Abraham, S. Daniel & Ewa $1,445,000
Eychaner, Fred $1,370,000
Searle, Daniel C. $1,250,000
Perenchio, A. Jerrold $1,204,000
Buell, Susie Tompkins $1,133,650
Lindner, Carl H. Jr. $1,092,000
Carsey, Marcia L $1,075,000
Earhart, Ann Getty $1,000,000
Glaser, Robert D. $1,000,000
Lewis, Dan $1,000,000
Rosenthal, Richard $1,000,000
Sandler, Herb & Marion $954,050



This is the break down of the top three sponsors:

Lewis, Peter B.
Contributions to 527 Committees:
The chart below shows the total amount of money contributed since August 2000 to 527 committees by this individual donor. Click on committee name for a summary of activity.

Committee Amount Contributed
Joint Victory Campaign 2004 $7,750,000
America Coming Together - Nonfederal Account $2,995,000
MoveOn.org Voter Fund $2,500,000
Marijuana Policy Project Political Fund $630,000
Young Democrats of America $250,000
Punk Voter Inc. $50,000


Soros, George and Susan W.Contributions to 527 Committees:
The chart below shows the total amount of money contributed since August 2000 to 527 committees by this individual donor. Click on committee name for a summary of activity.

Committee Amount Contributed
America Coming Together - Nonfederal Account $5,000,000
Joint Victory Campaign 2004 $4,550,000
MoveOn.org Voter Fund $2,500,000
Campaign for a Progressive Future $500,000
Campaign for Americas Future (Labor) $300,000
Democracy for America - Non-federal $250,000
DASHPAC - Nonfederal Account $20,000
Main Street Individual Fund $0

[bach04]

I forgot to include the third individual on the list. Behold! It is HANOI FONDA!

Fonda, Jane
Fonda is the top individual contributor by far to 527 committees, outspending the second-place individual by more than $10 million. The two-time Oscar winning actress, daughter of actor Henry Fonda, became involved in the anti-Vietnam War movement in the late 1960s. Later, she conceived a highly successful line of exercise videos, and she married and subsequently divorced media mogul Ted Turner, founder of CNN. She is a major supporter of abortion rights organizations and was the sole funder of the 527 committee, Pro-Choice Vote.

Contributions to 527 Committees:
The chart below shows the total amount of money contributed since August 2000 to 527 committees by this individual donor. Click on committee name for a summary of activity.

Committee Amount Contributed
Pro Choice Vote $12,918,450
Gore/Lieberman Recount Committee $100,000
Americans for Equality $25,000
Georgia Senate 2002 $22,000
New York Senate 2000 $20,000
MoveOn.org Voter Fund $300
League of Conservation Voters, Inc. $0

[Scott]

It would never occur to anyone that people like George Soros and Jane Fonda are trying to buy the government, now would it?


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Bye bye, Boston Straggler!

[Me#1You#10]

[Bill Levinson]

[producehawk]

I can't wait to see how the new swifty add will torpedo the dems. talking points and make obsolete this moveon add

[Sisku Hanne]

Polaris, I also waffle back and forth from thinking the left is dumb as cat sh!t, or cunning like a fox. Then I recently heard someone say that such blinding rage as they have cannot coexist with rational thought. I think that's true.
The DNC and the Kerry camp are a different matter. They are cunning and angry enough to still have their wits about them - very dangerous.

And now a relevant quote from one of my new "heros", Hugh Hewitt, who is doing so much to support the Swiftees:
"There is no greater sign of a powerful message than its denunciation by the opposing side."

Moveon.org, we got the power!