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taz Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 86 Location: new jersey
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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I think they are so very desperate to get the ads stopped now before the anti-war stuff really gets going. he really has no credible defense for that and everything he said and did is documented! |
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Navymomx2 Lt.Jg.
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 149 Location: Washington
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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kmudd wrote: | Rassmann has had ten different stories on what happened so how can he claim they can't their keep stories straight? |
Just heard Rassmann speaking, had to laugh when he said "I had bullets flying over me".............NOT ENEMY BULLETS..............just BULLETS!! |
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kmudd Master Chief Petty Officer
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Navymomx2 wrote: | kmudd wrote: | Rassmann has had ten different stories on what happened so how can he claim they can't their keep stories straight? |
Just heard Rassmann speaking, had to laugh when he said "I had bullets flying over me".............NOT ENEMY BULLETS..............just BULLETS!! |
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Polaris Rear Admiral
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 626
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Navymomx2 wrote: | kmudd wrote: | Rassmann has had ten different stories on what happened so how can he claim they can't their keep stories straight? |
Just heard Rassmann speaking, had to laugh when he said "I had bullets flying over me".............NOT ENEMY BULLETS..............just BULLETS!! |
He did. No one disputes that. Just not enemy bullets...and Rassmann wasn't exactly in the best position to be a good witness. _________________ -Polaris
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kmmpatriot Lt.Jg.
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 146
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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One other thing....Someone asked about McCain and either Cleland or Rassman said that McCain had said and CONTINUES to say these ads are blahx3...Does anyone know if that is true??? I thought that McCain came out once, early on, and that was it....Anyone hear this?? _________________ The Wise man draws more Advantage from his Enemies, than the Fool from his Friends. - from Poor Richard's Almanac...and a perfect commentary on the current state of this campaign! |
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kmudd Master Chief Petty Officer
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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kmmpatriot wrote: | One other thing....Someone asked about McCain and either Cleland or Rassman said that McCain had said and CONTINUES to say these ads are blahx3...Does anyone know if that is true??? I thought that McCain came out once, early on, and that was it....Anyone hear this?? |
They didn't say McCain signed this letter either. |
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Steve Z Rear Admiral
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 687 Location: West Hartford CT
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:10 pm Post subject: Cleland letter |
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Quote from pro-Kerry letter:
"Our pain from seeing these slanderous attacks stems from something much more fundamental, that if one veteran's record is called into question, the service of all American veterans is questioned."
Really, Mr. Kerry! How many veterans' records did YOU call into question in April 1971???
To paraphrase from Bill Clinton, the SBVT are "feeling your pain"! _________________ The traitor will crater! |
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Polaris Rear Admiral
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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That's because McCain didn't sign the letter....and don't think he wasn't asked to either. I find that significant. _________________ -Polaris
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kmudd Master Chief Petty Officer
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Polaris wrote: | That's because McCain didn't sign the letter....and don't think he wasn't asked to either. I find that significant. |
McCain must know he critized the SwiftVets before he knew the facts and now is questioning why he did that. |
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Navymomx2 Lt.Jg.
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 149 Location: Washington
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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kmudd wrote: | Rassmann has had ten different stories on what happened so how can he claim they can't their keep stories straight? |
Just heard Rassmann speaking, had to laugh when he said "I had bullets flying over me".............NOT ENEMY BULLETS..............just BULLETS!! |
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kmmpatriot Lt.Jg.
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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I should think that these Kerry supporters might want to be a little more careful about throwing his name and image around then. Methinks that could end up biting them in the collective tush! _________________ The Wise man draws more Advantage from his Enemies, than the Fool from his Friends. - from Poor Richard's Almanac...and a perfect commentary on the current state of this campaign! |
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ord33 Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 670 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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I know one thing for sure, if I was a Swift Boat Vet. For Truth now on March 13th I'd be TICKED OFF. Here Rassmann is on TV calling Chenoweth, Thurlow, and all these guys "LIARS" and Rassmann is foaming at the mouth. Meanwhile, EVERYONE with the SVFT has been EXTREMELY respectful to everyone except Kerry. They have been very understanding, and have not badmouthed anyone except Kerry. You dont see them going out on TV noting Rassmann's MANY discrepencies in his "recollections" of the events, instead they focus on Kerry, which is the way it should be. I've been keepin' quiet about Rassmann, but personally, he gets under my skin now! |
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Navymomx2 Lt.Jg.
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 149 Location: Washington
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Polaris wrote: | Navymomx2 wrote: | kmudd wrote: | Rassmann has had ten different stories on what happened so how can he claim they can't their keep stories straight? |
Just heard Rassmann speaking, had to laugh when he said "I had bullets flying over me".............NOT ENEMY BULLETS..............just BULLETS!! |
He did. No one disputes that. Just not enemy bullets...and Rassmann wasn't exactly in the best position to be a good witness. |
Exactly!!
I was so excited hearing that my point was if there was ENEMY fire then Rassmann should have said there was ENEMY BULLETS.
It was FRIENDLY fire!!! |
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ASPB Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 01 Jun 2004 Posts: 1680
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the free advertising Max. The Truth will out! _________________ On Sale! Order in lots of 100 now at velero@rcn.com Free for the cost of shipping All profits (if any, especially now) go to Swiftvets. The author of "Sink Kerry Swiftly" ---ASPB |
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tvaughan Seaman
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 182
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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Just as a correction, the goal here was not to get Bush to stop the ads.
The goal here is to get the subject off Kerry's record and on to Bush's "slanderous" campaign strategy.
There are so many "big lies", I don't know where to begin. No one ever challenged Max Cleland's Vietnam record. He was challenged harshly on his voting record. He was not put on screen to say he was like Osama and Saddam, the relationship was do you want Max Cleland and his poor voting record in office while Osama and Saddam are still out there? (At the time Hussein was).
I personally have never seen an attack like I just saw by an official representing a campaign in my life. Never. Never. Not by someone representing a campaign.
With the media peddling the lies of that conference and not calling it what it obviously is... a lie. I do not think I know how the public is going to act.
I think someone has to hit back and hit back hard. _________________ Talking point #1: Sign 180
Talking point #2: Sign 180
Talking point #3: Sign 180
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