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Jack Mclaughlin
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 Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:10 pm Post subject: 900,000 Jobs Created in Three Months!!! |
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| Good news for job hunters. Bad news for Kerry. Larry Kudlow predicts 15% to 20% gain in stock market this summer. Once market is convinced Bush will be winner it will go even higher. |
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kyleparr
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Can you qualify this with the job losses and job gains, as well as where we are in comparison to Bush's claims? Also, what is your source, and what kind of jobs are these?
Otherwise, this is just crap. |
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prdCOmom
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Now Jack....you are not suppose to tell people this....It is truthful and good news.  (being sarcastic for the trolls)
They are still stuck on panties on the heads of prisoners while some Americans are losing theirs.
Poor George Soros (Mr. Money bags to the DNC) thinks that is as bad as 9/11
What on earth is wrong with that picture!
Congrats to all those Americans with new jobs though and thanks Jack for reminding most of us that America is strong and good.
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prdCOmom
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Ps. Kyle....
Why don't you do a little work for a change and come back with some FACTS to dispute it.
Oh wait.....you don't have to....I always forget the rules.
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kyleparr
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Here is the context. Makes thing seem a lot different doesn't it.
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http://money.cnn.com/2004/05/07/news/economy/jobless/
After the economy lost 2.7 million jobs from the start of 2001 until August 2003 -- well after the recession ended -- payrolls have now grown for eight straight months, adding 1.1 million jobs.
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OK, let us do math. 2.7 - 1.1 = 1.6 million jobs BELOW start
Let us do more math - 1.6/2.7 = 59 percent of jobs still not back
This does not account for the other MILLIONS of jobs Bush claimed that his tax cuts would create, ABOVE and BEYOND the original jobs.
See the way FACTS work? |
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Saint
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Now if the dullard had posted facts from the US Department of Labor with a link to their .gov site, then I would be jumping for joy. Fact remains that millions of Americans are still without work and Bush could give two ***** less while he orchestrates helping his corporate masters pump up the bottom line while sending even more jobs over seas.
Gee I wonder how the 7,500 folks that are getting laid off from MCI this month feel about this lie that has been posted. |
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Keith
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Saint wrote: | Now if the dullard had posted facts from the US Department of Labor with a link to their .gov site, then I would be jumping for joy. Fact remains that millions of Americans are still without work and Bush could give two ***** less while he orchestrates helping his corporate masters pump up the bottom line while sending even more jobs over seas.
Gee I wonder how the 7,500 folks that are getting laid off from MCI this month feel about this lie that has been posted. |
First of all, the folks getting laid off at MCI can blame their management (or mismanagement).
Second, the unemployment rate is still average historically... come on saint, you want us to show our sources, but you are just throwing out wild claims with no proof. 5.6% is still lower then the "fully employed" rate historically quoted by economists, and much lower than most other countries:
http://thinkinboutstuff.netfirms.com/unemployment.htm
Third, the 900,000 figure for 3 months is flat out wrong... it was 947,000... you guys do watch the news, don't you? Why would someone need to provide a link to a government website:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=668&e=2&u=/ap/20040604/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/economy
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spook
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| All these new jobs and the Saint and his boy blunder Kyleparr still can't find a job. |
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Saint
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Keith wrote: | | Saint wrote: | Now if the dullard had posted facts from the US Department of Labor with a link to their .gov site, then I would be jumping for joy. Fact remains that millions of Americans are still without work and Bush could give two ***** less while he orchestrates helping his corporate masters pump up the bottom line while sending even more jobs over seas.
Gee I wonder how the 7,500 folks that are getting laid off from MCI this month feel about this lie that has been posted. |
First of all, the folks getting laid off at MCI can blame their management (or mismanagement).
Second, the unemployment rate is still average historically... come on saint, you want us to show our sources, but you are just throwing out wild claims with no proof. 5.6% is still lower then the "fully employed" rate historically quoted by economists, and much lower than most other countries:
http://thinkinboutstuff.netfirms.com/unemployment.htm
Third, the 900,000 figure for 3 months is flat out wrong... it was 947,000... you guys do watch the news, don't you? Why would someone need to provide a link to a government website:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=668&e=2&u=/ap/20040604/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/economy
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The management at MCI was replaced two years ago Keith. And these sites you have posted are not credible news organizations of facts. Only the US department of Labor has accurate facts on unemployment. Get your **** together fudgepacker.
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kyleparr
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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I love the way you completely ignore the FACTS! Without context, 947,000 jobs means NOTHING!!! I provided context. You people are unbelievable!!!
LIARS! LIARS! LIARS!!! |
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Saint
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Saint
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BrianC
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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The fact is, unemployment is currently 5.6%
source: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
which is the same as it was over the clinton years, and yet the Kerry Kampers still want to try and tell you "the economy's terrible".
Poor Kerry Kampers. Nothing positive to offer about Kandidate Kerry, so they accentuate anything and everything good about the United States.
Kerry Kampers: Unarmed in the battle of wits. |
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prdCOmom
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nananana
Sticks and stones.....LOL
hmmm when did Clinton leave office?........
Oh wait....I forgot that things happen instantly in government.
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Keith
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| kyleparr wrote: | Here is the context. Makes thing seem a lot different doesn't it.
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http://money.cnn.com/2004/05/07/news/economy/jobless/
After the economy lost 2.7 million jobs from the start of 2001 until August 2003 -- well after the recession ended -- payrolls have now grown for eight straight months, adding 1.1 million jobs.
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OK, let us do math. 2.7 - 1.1 = 1.6 million jobs BELOW start
Let us do more math - 1.6/2.7 = 59 percent of jobs still not back
This does not account for the other MILLIONS of jobs Bush claimed that his tax cuts would create, ABOVE and BEYOND the original jobs.
See the way FACTS work? |
Quoting a 5/7/2004 article to disprove today's news? Interesting approach.
Can you provide a link quoting President Bush saying millions of jobs would be created in the first five months of 2004? That the jobs would be above and beyond? Or is your memory somewhat slanted through hatred.
Also, you quoted rather selectively from your reference article. Here's some more (keep in mind, this is from 5/7, before the additional good news):
| Quote: | Payroll growth of 288,000 comes in well above forecasts; unemployment dips to 5.6 percent.
Job growth in April was widespread
Construction added 18,000 jobs and retail added 23,000 jobs, while the business and professional services gained 123,000.
Average hourly wages posted a relatively strong 0.3 percent gain, climbing 5 cents to $15.59 -- the biggest increase since a 6-cent gain last July. |
I know you folks don't like Bush, but why spin good news into bad, even to the point of using old data.
Here are my selective quotes from the most recent article:
| Quote: | U.S. employers added almost a quarter million workers in May, extending a nine-month hiring spree and accommodating enough new jobseekers to hold the unemployment rate steady at 5.6 percent.
Payrolls swelled by almost 1 million in the last three months alone, the Labor Department said Friday. Employment figures for March and April were revised up to reflect the addition of 353,000 and 346,000 jobs respectively.
Hiring last month was widespread, with businesses adding an overall 248,000 new jobs across the economy. Industries that posted the biggest gains included construction, health care, professional and business services and hotels and restaurants.
"What is really key is that every major sector had improvements," said John Silvia, chief economist for Wachovia Securities. "That suggests these gains are sustainable." |
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