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Stevie
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DANG! it's good to be back over here with all of you! and Michele' s article ! Great article - tho, I don't like her calling Kerry 'Mr Perfect' - for personal reasons.... but then, he is an awful lot like a 'Mr Perfect' I was married to once..... ; I made a stop at Kerry website.... looking for a speech he made in August.... didn't find it, but took a spin on hs blog site.... yipes! that's depressing! It's so hard to believe so many people in this country can be so misguided! They actually believe the dribble Kerry spouts! Can't they hear? or is it that they just can't remember what he said the day before? Talk about the dumbing down of America! This is so sad! I better start polling my son and grandson.... I know where my daughter stands on this (with bush)...
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Kathy Kay
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Location: Lake Charles, Louisiana
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| Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:10 am Post subject: Re: Michelle Malkin: "Kerry furious at Swift Boat Vete |
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| W.P. Wily wrote: | One of our local radio hosts had a call-in question today: Why is Kerry so disliked on a personal basis?
The question was mainly targeted toward the women in the audience, since the premise was based on recent poll results showing Kerry's popularity with women is in a free-fall. |
Just one more issue for which he has been given a pass, and that I don't understand, is the issue of what happened with his first marriage. My understanding is that he left his first wife while she was in a depths of a debilitating depression, one that lasted for quite some time. Being the loyal, stand up guy that he is, he took off for greener pastures, dating celebrities and having a high old time. And then he catches Mrs. Heinz on his radar and leaves the Hollywood babes behind for "true love."
So why is it that a politician's treatment of his spouse is evidence of his character in some instances (a la Newt Gengrich) but isn't in this case? To me, his treatment of her is perfectly consistent with behavior throughout his life and evidence of his character or lack thereof. |
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Fort Campbell
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| Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:09 am Post subject: |
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Right on, Michelle. Leave it to a woman to tell it like it is.  |
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Location: Texas
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| Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:45 pm Post subject: Now we have the ?smoking gun??? |
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For sure this guy in Baird Tx is a "YELLOW DOG DEMOCRAT"
So there is no question that Kerry and he have been "CLOSE"
His "elite" skin just would not turn out like the YELLOW DOG,
just this, ugly orange stuff.
1. Christmas in Cambodia
2. Gun Running in Cambodia
3. The CIA man and the magic hat
4. The "flying dog" VC
5. My "special dog tags" the recon kind, rubber band and all
even gave the other tag to daughter, "because of her trouble"
now she has to live knowing he father gave her "a lie"
6. He calls that "wind surfing" give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
all the above "his voice" and in print, not the "swift boat lies" his own.
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Montana
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| Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Fort Campbell wrote: | | Right on, Michelle. Leave it to a woman to tell it like it is. |
I, too, enjoyed Michelle´s article. Had a good laugh at ciper´s
comments (if I were 30 years younger...).
Listened to Washington Journal call in for women only. Many
said the same things Michelle mentioned.
Many things she wrote also reflect what is written in Unfit for
Command.
I also remember at least one WWII vet who bought into what the press
was saying about returning Vietnam vets. I had one army
vet (WWII) say to me that at least his generation won the war they
fought in. I expected this kind of comment to come from a
civilian who never served but never from a fellow vet. However,
this guy was in the minority and was drinking at the time.
Just my .02 worth
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sixdogteam
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Location: Upper Wabash River Valley
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| Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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If Bush wins this election, I believe historians will write that it was the Swift Boat Vets efforts that provided the turning point in the President's campaign, and America will owe them a HUGE debt of gratitude!!
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coldwarvet
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| Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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And how many hours of flag football did Kerry play with the college boys.
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WebTalk
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| Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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| sixdogteam wrote: | | If Bush wins this election, I believe historians will write that it was the Swift Boat Vets efforts that provided the turning point in the President's campaign, and America will owe them a HUGE debt of gratitude!! |
I agree. And, I think SBVT will be studied in Poli Sci classes in the future.
Also, all Vietnam Vets should be proud as hell to have such a forthright group of their own leading the way to a new image as proud defenders of freedom and a valid political force willing to stand up and smack down those who would discredit their service (VVAW) and call themselves "war hero".
Thank you Senator Kerry for providing the platform.
I still want to hear an apology from McCain for his "Dishonest and Dishonorable" statement.
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lrb111
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| Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Michelle Malkin: "Kerry furious at Swift Boat Vete |
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| W.P. Wily wrote: | | Michelle Malkin wrote: | Beneath the Christophe-coifed hair, unnaturally taut skin, and artificially enhanced tan, there are some naked attributes Kerry cannot conceal:
His spite. His haughtiness. His condescending core.
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Throughout the course of the campaign, Kerry has demonstrated a holier-than-thou hubris that continues to alienate security moms, Reagan Democrats, and swing voters of all backgrounds.
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One of our local radio hosts had a call-in question today: Why is Kerry so disliked on a personal basis?
The question was mainly targeted toward the women in the audience, since the premise was based on recent poll results showing Kerry's popularity with women is in a free-fall.
Almost every single caller (without specific prompting by the host) mentioned exactly the attitude described in this article. A few added that they thought Kerry was a "girly-man", some because of his "wishy-washiness" which they felt was not a manly trait, and some because of his "metrosexual" bearing. But the perception of Kerry's "holier than thou", "I know everything, you know nothing" attitude was overwhelming. |
There's another elephant in the living room with kerry on this issue.
When most women are picking men, there is an element of "protection" they are looking for. At this point he has not taken a solid stance on protecting, any of us.
The main thing though is the woman read the man, she can tell when he is lying, being unfaithful, are all his efforts are not going to go toward their relationship. Women are very attuned to that. Probably at the mitochondrial dna level.
Kerry simply fails these most basic of tests. For a whole lot of women he is just another gigolo that can't get or keep his story straight. That will not work when so many of the women are looking for security, and more importantly the security of their offspring. We all know that any mother will put the security of her children above everything else.
A man cannot swith his story more than once and get away with for long. kerry switching his story everyday, will turn the women away in droves, becuse he simply isn't stable enough.
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Tom Poole
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Joined: 07 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:11 pm Post subject: ...Malkin... |
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| Michelle Malkin wrote: | | ...Kerry cannot conceal: His spite. His haughtiness. His condescending core.... |
Additional evidence of his condescension, haughtiness, arrogance and utter disdain for ordinary people, I found the following:
| Hal Cranmer, in a web posting wrote: | To: Mia T
This may have been around but it deserves another posting. Anyway, just got the below in an email today. Sure gives an insight into Ketchupman's liberal elitist leftist socialist attitude.
Writes Hal Cranmer:
I would like to add my two cents about my John Kerry experience.
During my career as an Air Force pilot, I spent two years flying a small twin-engine prop plane around the Pacific from my base in Okinawa, Japan. On one trip we had to fly Senator Kerry, his congressional aide, and a Navy Captain (Vietnam, A-4 fighter pilot) who was also in Kerry's party to various locations in Vietnam and Cambodia as part of the MIA/POW talks. When I met him, he was wearing a shirt with a picture of his sailboat on it. I told him I had a small 27' sailboat in Okinawa, he remarked 'Oh I never sail on anything less than 135 feet'. I laughed to myself and realized this guy was no sailor.
When we first flew him into Phnom Penh, he went to the back of the airplane and grabbed the pizza that was put aside for the crew and passed it around to his staff. He was never offered any pizza because they were supposed to have lunch with the Cambodian government once we landed. The pizza would have been our only meal that day. He just never cared to ask.
Then when we picked him up in Cambodia, he was an hour late getting to the airport We could not start the engines and therefore the air conditioning until he arrived. Phnom Penh at that time was over 100 degrees with 95% humidity and we were basically sitting in a greenhouse behind the cockpit windows. When he finally did arrive, we were ringing out our clothes from the perspiration. He walks out of the air conditioned car, into the airplane and asks us 'Could you guys get the air conditioning running, I'm a little warm." The other pilot had to physically restrain me from going back there and picking a fight.
Then we took him into Noi Bai airfield in Hanoi. After we picked him up the next day (he stayed the night in Vietnam, we stayed in Bangkok) we taxied out, ran up the engines for takeoff, and noticed that our prop rpm was vibrating all over the place. We taxied off to the side to look at it, but there was a good possibility that there was an engine
malfunction and the engine may fail if we took off with it. Well, Mr. Senator sticks his head up in the cockpit and says 'this plane WILL take - off, I have a press conference in Bangkok in three hours!"(Maybe this is an indication of how he will run the FAA). We ran the engines again, and did not have the problem, so we took off and made it back.
During the flight, he told everyone how he had taken a Cessna (a small general aviation plane) up with a fighter pilot, and the fighter pilot remarked that Kerry was one of the best pilots he had ever seen. I don't know about other pilots out there, but it's hard to imagine a little, single-engine prop plane pilot being able to show the 'right stuff'.
After Kerry left the plane, the Navy Captain came up to us, apologized and said basically that he knows Kerry is a jerk and that we should be glad we don't have to deal with him every day....
Or will we?
WE HAD BETTER GET OUT AND VOTE!!
Jack Privitt
HPE Computer Specialist, Inc.
5314 Mac Arthur Dr.
North Little Rock, AR. 72118
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MarineBrat
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Location: Right edge of the loony left coast.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Anker-Klanker wrote: | | That quote is a little out of context, I think. Kerry probably was privately furious about the SBVFT ads, but the proper context for the NYT quote was that he was furious with his staff for advising him not to counter the SBVFT ads immediately after they appeared. |
Funny thing is that I'd probably have advised the same. Imagine if you will that you're standing on a street corner and Godzilla comes down the block. Good advice would lean away from "go get him", and towards "maybe he'll go away"! 
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jataylor11
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| Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Why is Kerry not popular with women ---
He married two women for money. Once maybe for love --- twice makes you a gigolo. Women do not mind earning more money than their husbands, but remain suspicious of a man who marries into millions, divorces her, sleeps on co-workers sofas until you marry into billions. This is not appealing to most women. Upon this base you add the rest of Kerry's character flaws and there is precious little to view as positive or worthwhile. |
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Steve Z
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| Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:09 pm Post subject: Hal Cranmer article |
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Maybe the trip with Hal Cranmer was the trip to Cambodia that was "seared" into Kerry's memory--he was seared by the heat!
But if Kerry was already a Senator by then, Richard Nixon was no longer President!
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fastrock
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| Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry to rain on some member's parade, but it's still 34 days to the election. The new SwiftVet ad with the POW wife's is 60 seconds of impact, but they still need the $$$$ to get the message out.
SwiftVet ads are making a difference, and money is what is needed to sink Kerry. I’m selling my chop saw this weekend so I can send another $100.
Moderator - correct me if I’m wrong.
Donations sent the last 7-14 days will have marginal usage or impact on the campaign.
Donations sent during the last week will have ZERO impact on the campaign.
Please donate within your means now!!!
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Nathanyl
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| God and Country wrote: | Guys, Michelle Malkin is married with children.
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Noooo. Say it ain't so!
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