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peter · Lieutenant Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 214

Pat HATES what Kerry did to the Nixon Administration and LOVES John O'Neil.

He was ALL WE COULD ASK FOR AND MORE.

Kerry is wounded BUT NOT DONE.... The message needs to get HAMMERED AND HAMMERED AND HAMMERED.

sround · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:10 am Post subject:

Just posted mp3s to this section Laughing

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Beatrice1000 · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:13 am Post subject:

truthserum · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:21 am Post subject:

I thought Pat B made a good point/zinger when he said to that Glen Smith if Kerry has all these medals and valor (or words to that affect) then why not release his records with the 180?

I thought that drove home the point that if Kerry has nothing to hide, but the exact opposite, something to brag about, then why are they kept hidden.

BINGO!
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becca1223 · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:36 am Post subject:

I bet the democrats' heads were spinning when they heard that idiot's argument over the integrity that John O'Neill displayed tonight. WOO HOO, this is great! Wow, I can wait for the other surprises! This is better than sex Laughing

becca1223 · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:40 am Post subject:

Oops! I meant to type I "can't" wait for the other surprises. Got too excited there for a minute Wink

I B Squidly · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:43 am Post subject:

Glenn Smith's book contains 30 pages of his own diatribe but the rest is xeroxs of Bush's records. Of course every time this subject comes up and the more Bush's records are examined, the better he looks. On Medvid today it was pointed out that Bush's unit was assigned to NORAD intercept but Smith couldn't acknowledge that the Soviets were a threat or that there were any concerns for US defense but Kerry and his 'band of brothers'. Korea and the Fulda Gap would have been assigned the same insignificance...according to Smith (is that a real name?)

This Smith guy purports to be a journalist but unsaid is where or what affilitiation.

This guy is good, a good prevaricator albeit, but good. Just the kind of unruffled, bald faced liar the left has come to love and believe. A front for Soros this guy needs further examination.

Theresa Alwood · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:54 am Post subject:

Dang it! I missed it. Will have to tape it when it rebroadcasts and watch it tomorrow. But with everything you guys said...can't wait Very Happy

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cipher · Vice Admiral Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902

I B Squidly · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:00 am Post subject:

cipher:

Smith says he was never in the military. He argues that is a spurious disclaimer as he was never a president either.

Beatrice1000 · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:13 am Post subject:

I B Squidly · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:20 am Post subject:

Smith claimed to have offered $50k for anyone who had seen Bush in Alabama. Medvid countered with $50k if Smith could disprove any Swiftie point.
Needless to say, Medvid kept his money.

truthserum · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:37 am Post subject:

Here's some info on the lyin Texan. Just another Moveon.org ogre
He doesn't have a leg to stand on and knows nothing about Swiftvets from what I can tell.

http://www.harpercollins.com/catalog/author_xml.asp?authorid=29295

Glenn W. Smith
Glenn W. Smith is the executive director of Texans for Truth, an arm of DriveDemocracy.org, a Texas-based grassroots organization that seeks to increase political participation by helping ordinary people make their voices heard in politics. A former journalist and longtime behind-the-scenes adviser to several U.S. senators and governors, Smith has also advised major U.S. businesses and institutions on communications strategies and served as a consultant to the Rockridge Institute, a progressive think tank based in California. The author of The Politics of Deceit, Smith lives in Austin, Texas

http://drivedemocracy.org/about/
ABOUT DRIVEDEMOCRACY
What is DriveDemocracy.org?
DriveDemocracy is a Texas-based organization initially funded through a generous start-up grant from MoveOn.org. Like MoveOn, DriveDemocracy wants to help ordinary people make their voices heard in the political arena. For too long the voices of ordinary Texans have been silenced by a system that depends on big money, influence peddling, and elite control of political institutions. DriveDemocracy wants to revitalize our democracy by creating new avenues for political involvement.

How was the initial start-up funding raised?
The grant from MoveOn.org comes from the remaining proceeds of MoveOn’s powerful Defending Democracy campaign, which raised $1 million in 2003 to educate voters about Republican U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay’s unprecedented mid-decade Congressional redistricting plan for Texas. DeLay’s plan disenfranchised millions of Texas voters by radically altering Congressional district lines. MoveOn’s leadership believed the remaining proceeds from the campaign should be used in Texas in ways that pay ongoing dividends to ordinary citizens.
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cipher · Vice Admiral Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902

Doesn't Smith know that the Alabama re-assignment was an administrative reassignment? He was still with TANG, but for paperwork purposes, he was "in Alabama"? He already had his points pre-loaded for the entire year, and pulling drills in a unit without his jet and with no slot was not at all unusual? And "Not observed" doesn't mean he wasn't SEEN, it means the commander didn't have a sufficient period of command of the officer to render an evaluation of the officer being rated for that rating period?

Someone needs to give this Smith guy a clue, it's obvious he can't get one on his own.
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wpage · Lieutenant Joined: 03 Aug 2004 Posts: 213

I seriously differ with Glenn Smith on the issue of being born in 1953 - so "Vietnam was never an issue" for him. Maybe he just thought it wasn't an issue he need consider dealing with. Some of us born in '53 did consider it an issue, and out of patriotism enlisted at 17yrs. old in '71 and after my brother enlisted. We both served in Nam in 71-72 but not together.

Does anyone out there want to call us stupid or maybe patriotic. Neither of us liked Kerry/Fonda in '71-'72 and have been against them ever since. My dislike of Kerry goes back to seeing the O'Neil / Kerry '71 debates before I ever enlisted. I remember Kerry asking that famous line of how could our country ask some to be the last one to die.

This is very very personal for me and my brother. Just look at the names on the wall for 71-72-73. We were still fighting while he and Fonda were cavorting with the enemy. To this day there are many MIA's from the 1972 Easter Offensive where we and our SVN Allies kicked the NVA's A$$. Many of you had nearly eliminated the VC by that time. Kerry caused us to later abandon our allies just as he now has disdain for our allies - and all the time saying we should have more allies.
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