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[Tacan70UDN]

Folks, I do hope this really is a big story that causes problems for Kerry, but it looks a lot like what the intelligence agencies call "circular reporting". Kind of like that game you played as a kid, where someone says something at one end of a line of people, and it's repeated down the line. What comes out the other end has very little relevance to the original statement. Keep your hopes up, but don't be surprised if nothing much comes of it. I hope I'm being overly cautious.

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TA Ray Za's pregnant!!! Kerry goosed her in the blind or he was blind and goosed her. Either way expect the news to break from her Ob-Gyn. If the baby does not look perfect Edwards will sue.

[Tacan70UDN]

[ThanksVets]

After the KLA video, Iran terrorist connections, etc were all swept under the rug, what exectly would it have to be to concern this country? I'm feeling like the only thing that will phase these Koolad Drinkers would be if Kerry pulled off a mask and revealed tricky Dick!

[reconflyer]

seriously, Thanksvets, I agree...

If it is something nit-picky about something Kerry said about Tora Bora (which is pretty damning stuff, he said it on Larry King in 2001, he basically backs up what the administration was doing there and now is flipping on it) it won't have legs.

At this point it seems anyone who is voting Kerry has already drunk the Kool-aid...

Only something ground-shaking (like the Bush DUI smear) will have any effect at all...

That is my opinion, I could be wrong.

Get everyone you know who will vote Bush out to the polls!

reconflyer
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[Anker-Klanker]

I'm kind of like Tacan... Everybody wants something like this s-o-o-o-o bad. It might be best to prepare ourselves for a let-down since we can't do anything about it anyway. I mean, what if this turns out to be another Sinclair-like hype? It's not the first time that a leaked big story was used to sell papers.

[Navy_Navy_Navy]

[ProudDaughterofVet]

I just hope whatever it is, it is BIG enough for the MSM to battle Kerry with..It is not a matter of the Kool-Aid drinkers voting, the hard core 35% who would vote for UBL if they could..this is about the other 15% who want a change or disagree with the Iraq war..and the all important women vote..so hang in there, it does not have to be earth shattering to make a difference..a dent now would be great news..also, supressing that vote??? More great news...

I know you, as I, despise MSNBC, especially after the LO breakdown on Friday..however, they have a link to the frontpage of Scarborough, about battleground polls..look at it..Red states, are Red..blue states, are almost all red..Iowa, Wi, MICHIGAN tied..and now Hawaii tied..look my friends, this is NOT going to be close if our people vote..and if the Dems stay home, which this "news" could do for our side..

Can not wait for the Drudge Report tomorrow..I wanted a weekend off..guess
"Just when I thought I was OUT, (for the weekend!), the pull me back in!"



PD
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[Kimmymac]

UH! WELL! REALLY! <working up to full blown snit> I sneaked a look at my records in high school and I have an IQ of 127. I have been known to tangle my syntax, forgot someone's name, and act goofy.

ARE THE DEMOCRATS INSINUATING THAT I AM ALSO A MORON???



That would be looked upon with much displeasure by moi. These fleaflickers gotta stop insulting me. They are like tag team wrestlers. If this is how they treat me when they are courting my vote what would they be like after the honeymoon?

IQ, SHMYQUE. My husband has an IQ of 185. Seriously. It is like the first thing his mother told me. It was like, "Hello dear. Youseemniceenoughbut IamsureyouarenotgoodenoughformysonhehasanIQof185."

He is fluent in four languages, has a photographic memory, and he can't hook up a VCR. He is brilliant, but in real life? Fagghedabout it. In a domestic crisis everyone always wants in MY lifeboat. Need to speak Farsi? Want a document decoded? See my husband. Your sink backed up? You're in labor? Your car is broken down? Call me.

Bottom line: I don't care if Kerry has an IQ of 285. It doesn't make up for his deep and thorough character flaws.

But I encourage the publication of the fact of Bush's superior intelligence, even if it is *only* in the mid 120's. I also never believed Gore was that much smarter, unless *smarter* is the new Democrat spin for *way crazier*

Oh, and P damn S: John Kerry's use of what God given gifts? His ability to snag rich broads? What 40 years of public service? Living off rich broads and the public is not a public service; it is just a parasite looking for a host.
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[Aristotle The Hun]

Kimmymac:

Now I wish I hadn't already given away the award for the best comment on the subject.

Sam
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Deportè Monsieur Kerrè

[Kimmymac]

Aristotle: You should know better than to conclude the voting until I have had my way with the board.
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[reconflyer]

Kimmy,

Funny, I've always scored high on IQ tests (not as high as your husband, for goodness' sake) but in the very top percentiles... At 185, your husband is an anomoly, only an infinitesimal percentage of the population approaches that sort of cognitive horsepower.

Still, as you identified in your post, high I.Q. can be a double-edged sword. Studies show that extremely high I.Q. can lead to a handicap in social function. The perceived erratic and eccentric behavior of very intelligent people is not just perceived, it is fact. Accepting convention and social norms for the very intelligent seems illogical, an example, why bathe as often as we do, or for that matter, why are clothes a requirement in our climate controlled world? Many of the brightest people on the planet struggle with normal social situations that most people would consider routine.

I think much (too much) emphasis is placed on I.Q. and not enough emphasis is placed on one's actual ability to function. This ability is facilitated by the subject's ability to adjust socially (to work or interact with people), and also by their attitudes and value set.

I'm a good example of a guy who could do much more with my brain, but I'm fairly content BBQing something and working on cars. My wife makes more money than I, and she outranks me, but I don't care. I actually think that is a good thing. Still, when my workmates start talking about Schroedinger's Cat, I can join in, but I usually just give them a wedgie (tm). Quantum mechanics to me represents the fascinating chain of events that occur when you pop a top on a can of Coor's Light. I'm just that kind of person.

Still, I think it is funny (telling) that when things go wrong, everyone wants on your lifeboat. That is a huge endorsement of your ability to cope, and you should be very proud. I suggest it is worth much more than what little foibles a super-high I.Q. offers a body. For the most part, an ability to cope, or even reason with a nimble and pure spirit outshines the ability to reason yourself into a fit. Occam's razor cuts true. It is natural.

reconflyer
see: http://www.ctd.northwestern.edu:16080/resources/socemoachieve/psychfactorsgifted.html
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[Kimmymac]

reconflyer: My husband: graduated high school at 16, was summa from Penn, holds a PhD from Stanford. Like I said: brilliant. Has decent social skills, and a great sense of humor (saving grace in all of us, yes?) but I also find myself running "interference" for him from time to time. Some things about people he just does not *get* and that leaves me to explain him to them and them to him. People as bright as my husband are valued in a different way than the rest of us are; and they get used to being deferred to. He said to me one time when we were first dating. "How do you think it would be if you always knew you were the smartest one in any crowd of ten million people?" And I replied, "The same as it is for me to know I am the best looking one in any crowd of ten million people. Sheesh, Get over yourself, buddy. Have a beer. Lighten up."

So, as you can see, I took care of that noise.



The life boat thing: my son summed that up pretty well. He loves his dad a lot, and takes after him in so many ways, but he once said, "If we were ever stranded on a desert island, Dad would be busy plotting and graphing the wind, tides, and currents, and figuring out the statistical probablilities for our ability to make landfall 75 different ways. Meanwhile, Mom would have caught and cooked fish, stored enough in the baskets she made to keep us for 3 months, engineered and built a de-salinization plant, chopped down trees and built a luxury life raft, and would have us all on board and ready, waiting patiently for Dad to show up with his charts and graphs."

He missed the the part where I would then tell his dad (when he showed up a week late) how brilliant and wonderful he is, and how I could have never built the life raft without his love and support. But his sisters would have noticed.

And THAT! ladies and gentlemen, is the heart, soul, and essence of what being an ordinary, everyday, no real job, Navy wife is all about.
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