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LewWaters
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If Congress is to investigate anything, maybe they should start with finding out how and why a person that aided and abbetted an enemy during wartime, most likely was given a dishonorable discharge, only to be upgraded later and proposes Communist ideals, has been sitting in the Senate for almost 20 years and came within a hairbreadth of the Presidency.
In 1997, it was this same person calling for action against Iraq, unilateral, if need be and who later supported it before he opposed it. Long before Bush was in office, this same individual was crying about WMDs inside of Iraq and now, wants the one President who finally does something about it to be impeached?
How can anyone take this person serious? 
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GM Strong
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:07 am Post subject: |
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| LewWaters wrote: |
How can anyone take this person serious? |
How can the Massachusetts people keep on electing two elitist snobs, neither of whom ever had a real job, to high office and then keep on electing them?
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mtboone
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| GM Strong wrote: | | LewWaters wrote: |
How can anyone take this person serious? |
How can the Massachusetts people keep on electing two elitist snobs, neither of whom ever had a real job, to high office and then keep on electing them? |
On Memorial Day in 2004 when Ken Briggs, Boats Turley and myself were walking around the Vietnam Memorial with our "Swift Boat Veterans against John Kerry" shirts on, see http://www.tinyvital.com/BlogArchives/000836.html
We had around 25 people from Kerry's home state approach us and one one opposed our stance against him. When we asked them. "Why do you keep voting him in?", their reply was the "Welfare vote and the female vote."
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GM Strong
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Lurch can do absolutely nothing to impeach anybody except open his yap. When he does that it is ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!! 
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kate
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from the article in the 1st post
| Quote: | | When I go back (to Washington) on Monday, I am going to raise the issue," Kerry said, referring to the Downing Street Memo in an interview with Massachusetts' Standard Times newspaper. |
haven't heard that he did this...all hot air?
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GM Strong
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| kate wrote: | from the article in the 1st post
| Quote: | | When I go back (to Washington) on Monday, I am going to raise the issue," Kerry said, referring to the Downing Street Memo in an interview with Massachusetts' Standard Times newspaper. |
haven't heard that he did this...all hot air? |
You have answered your own question. Lurch is only second to Byrd when it comes to bloviating. The Grand Keagle simply has more experience.
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kate
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Updates.....
Washington Post
| Quote: | Democrats Looking for a Road Map to Downing Street
By Terry M. Neal
Washingtonpost.com Staff Writer
Tuesday, June 14, 2005; 10:26 AM
Democrats this week are escalating their efforts to highlight the so-called "Downing Street Memo."
Rep. John Conyers Jr. (Mich.), the senior Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, has scheduled a public forum for Thursday on the subject. And 104 House Democrats have signed a letter written by Conyers to President Bush asking him for a detailed response to the memo.
After struggling during his failed presidential bid last year to stake out a clear and compelling position on the nation's most pressing issue -- Iraq -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) has come out swinging. A senior aide close to Kerry said this week that Kerry is circulating a letter about the memo among Democratic senators before sending it to Bush. The aide predicted that Kerry would make the letter public in the next few days.
If you're not familiar with the Downing Street Memo, a summary of a secret meeting among British Prime Minister Tony Blair and top officials discussing the war in Iraq eight months prior to the invasion, you're not alone. The Sunday Times of London broke the story of the memo in early May, a few weeks before the British elections, and the ensuing media storm contributed to the drumming Blair's Labor Party took in the elections.
While the European media have covered the memo extensively, it has received scant attention by the mainstream media in America. Walter Pincus of The Washington Post, who had previously written a story about the memo that ran inside the A section of the newspaper, wrote a front-page story on Sunday detailing a separate British memo (written prior to the DSM) that raised questions about America's postwar planning.
"When I go back [to Washington] on Monday, I am going to raise the issue," Kerry told the New Bedford (Mass.) Standard Times newspaper two weeks ago. "I think it's a stunning, unbelievably simple and understandable statement of the truth and a profoundly important document that raises stunning issues here at home."
But Kerry has yet to raise the issue in public again.
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However.....
seems there is another memo, a prequel to the now infamous Downing Street Memo
A Cabinet Paper dated 2 days prior, which kinda, sorta contradicts the Downing Street Memo
See All Things Conservative blog for
| Quote: | Update: Downing Street Memo
The Times Online has more information confirming what I wrote about the Downing Street memo here. The Times Online has posted the text of a Cabinet Office Paper that details the conditions for military action against Iraq, and unlike the Downing memo, this document is authentic. Recall that the Downing Street memo claimed that the Bush Administration had already decided on military action against Iraq in May of 2002 and that intelligence was going to be "fixed" to make the case for war. Here is How Editor & Publisher explained the substance of the Downing Street memo:
Seven months before the invasion of Iraq, the head of British foreign intelligence reported to Prime Minister Tony Blair that President Bush wanted to topple Saddam Hussein by military action and warned that in Washington intelligence was ‘being fixed around the policy,’ according to notes of a July 23, 2002, meeting with Blair at No. 10 Downing Street.
And here is item 6 from the Cabinet paper:
Although no political decisions have been taken, US military planners have drafted options for the US Government to undertake an invasion of Iraq [underline added]. by ATC
So the Cabinet Office paper, dated July 21, 2003 (two days before the Downing memo), makes it clear that the decision to go to war with Iraq had not yet been made. The fact that the Pentagon was working on plans for the war means nothing. There is probably a war plan for invading Canada somewhere on a dusty shelf in the Pentagon. Also of interest in the Cabinet paper are the reasons given for the war (item 5):
Our objective should be a stable and law-abiding Iraq, within present borders, co-operating with the international community, no longer posing a threat to its neighbours or to international security, and abiding by its international obligations on WMD.
Notice that a "stable and law-abiding Iraq" is listed first, and the issue of WMD is listed last. Now the question is: Will the MSM report on this as it did the Downing Street memo, a document of questionable authenticity? |
so JeanFraudKerri is going forward with this, saying the memo is evidence of impeachable crimes, while this memo itself is of questionable authenticity...
hope he bloviates himself into extinction
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Tanya
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http://powerlineblog.com/archives/010727.php
June 13, 2005
About That Downing Street Memo
"Every day or two we get an email from a lefty demanding to know why we haven't written about the "Downing Street memo" that John Kerry and others are treating as a bombshell revelation. Actually, we wrote about that memo (and quoted it in full) more than a month ago, just after it became public. Our analysis is here:
"A Gun That Doesn't Smoke." In a word, the memo is extremely interesting, but tells us nothing new about pre-war intelligence on Iraq, and is anything but a bombshell.
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/010382.php#010382
DEACON adds: It looks like even lefties can get ahead of the curve if they read Power Line. |
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DLI78
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| Quote: | | How can the Massachusetts people keep on electing two elitist snobs, neither of whom ever had a real job, to high office and then keep on electing them? |
Not being from Massachusetts, I can only look at the most obvious reason: It keeps 'em both out of Massachusetts.
Maybe the people there think of the Senate as a home for troubled wastrels.
Hmmm. Come to think of it, that would explain both senators and many of the representatives from my own state (La-La-Land). Boxer, Lady F, and Pelosi come to mind right off.
You know, I AM more comfortable with those three over in Washington passing gas most of the time.
It's sort of like the blessing for the Tsar in Fiddler on the Roof: "May God bless and keep the Tsar, far away from us."
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Those whose lives are a house of cards built upon a foundation of lies should not throw stones.
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