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[Me#1You#10]

Now, instead of a Senate tradition of comity, we get "Cowards!" and "Liars!" and "Nazis!". I would venture a guess that minority status isn't sitting well with Democrats. This type of rhetoric will ensure that status in perpetuity.

[GM Strong]

They have nothing to promote but negativity and obstruction. The so called Dem. moderates are muzzled. Why anyone would think their vitriol sounds appealing to anyone rational is a guess.
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[joe_madeup]

Here's my prediction.

I bet the coming news events will show that Rove did NOT tell Novak about Plame, but Rove maybe dropped a hint to Novak like "Just check into Joe Wilson's wife. I'm not allowed to tell you what I know about her, but what I know is common knowledge; you only have to ask on the Georgetown cocktail circuit." Which would have been a legal thing to say. Then AFTER Novak "outed" Plame in print, Rove discussed her with those other reporters - again legal (since she was already outed, and not by Rove). But the Wacko Left brigades will care for none of these distinctions. They badly need a howling spree; this will be the one.

So my prediction is: Rove did nothing wrong, but the Wacko Left will call for his head anyway, as they go around repeating endlessly that he "outed" Plame, when really he did not. (sigh)

[GM Strong]

It was common knowledge in the DC Liberal cocktail circuit. I would bet Rove said nothing of the sort, but may have acknwledged to know what other already knew. Besides, Plame was no secret agent, just an upper level staff puke. I used to know a guy like that. You knew he worked for the agency, he just couldn't say anything. We all knew, so what the hell was the secret.
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[baldeagle]

Rather & co. were not above basing a whole one hour slander program on manufactured documents.
Would Time/Cooper and/or NYT/Miller manufacture notes and documents to nail Rove and embarass the WH?
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[PhantomSgt]

The real leak is a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee and MSM is covering it up to protect them. The Rove allegations are just another smokescreen to divert attention from the real source who is a possible Presidential contender.

The Company was infiltrated during the past 40 years by Analysts and Agents of the sixties generation with liberal agendas who do not care much for the status quo. The situation we find ourselves in today can be laid directly at their feet with the pursuit of the One World Order.


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Independent that leans right of center.

[LewWaters]

Correct, Phantom. The left has been after Rove for a long time now and just floating his name with this means they won't give up until the "prove" it is him. This so called email evidence sounds very fishy to me, given that he admitted discussing her, after the public article some time ago.

The lefts hatred of Bush and the right means no one has to actually do wrong, just be accused of it and they are convicted.
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[shawa]

baldeagle said

[shawa]

WOW. I just found this site. It's a Timeline of the Plame leak.
Looks like tons of interesting stuff, but I'm just too tired to read it tonight.
Any insomniacs out there, HAVE AT IT!!!

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/footnotes/2004/07/the_joseph_wils.html

Scrolled down and spotted these articles:

Oct 11, 2003: "Secrets of the Scandal," The New York Times, Nicholas Kristof
Kristof makes several revelations: Plame's identity may already have been compromised by Aldrich Ames in 1994; Plame was steadily moving from non-official cover to official cover from the State Department; it was somewhat known in Washington that Plame had CIA connections, but her exact position was a well-guarded secret.



Oct 12, 2003: "Probe Focuses on Month Before Leak to Reporters," The Washington Post, Walter Pincus and Mike Allen
This article reveals that Wilson was a source for the Kristof 5/6 piece and the Post's 6/12 piece, also reveals that a Post reporter was contacted by administration officials about Plame on 7/12, and the anonymous source from the Post's 9/28 piece re-confirms his statements. Also mentions that investigators are looking into the NSC staffer who might have known of Plame's connection to Wilson.

Eventually, this story will be one of the reasons Pincus gets subpoenaed - he mentions an Admin source that gave info about the leaker on Jul 12.




Oct 17, 2003: "Memo May Aid Leak Probe," The Wall Street Journal, David S. Cloud
This article claims that an an internal CIA memo reveals Plame's connection to Wilson's Niger trip; it also reveals that Plame was involved with the clandestine network which monitors Iraq.
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[kate]

shawa wrote:

[Tanya]

Lawrence O'Donnell: Update on Rove

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/huffpost/20050703/cm_huffpost/003584_200507031044

"Rove would not let me get one day of traction on this story if he could stop me. If what I have reported is not true, if Karl Rove is not Matt Cooper’s source, Rove could prove that instantly by telling us what he told the grand jury. Nothing prevents him from doing that, except a good lawyer who is trying to keep him out of jail."

Larry's losing it!

[shawa]

http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/49305.htm

[shawa]

On a little different track now.
Just wondering if Colin Powell may have been the leaker.
He was the ONE SOURCE in the Administration that the reporters WOULD want to protect!
And he would have been familiar with Valerie Plame since Joe Wilson was a former Ambassador.
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“I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. ‘Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death.” (Thomas Paine, 1776)

[Navy_Navy_Navy]

Larrybaby lost it a long time ago. He needs meds - he doesn't need people lending his delusions any semblance of credibility. They're only reinforcing his insanity.

I'm still of the mind that it was all made up of whole cloth. That Novak had bupkis and that this huge pantomime of finding the leak is just that - a charade.

"Journalists" have been able to get by with "unnamed sources" for so long that Novak just took it for granted that he could get away with it, too. But he got caught in an entirely new argument and eventuality for which our media had not prepared itself.

As for Colin Powell, you make some good points. The left would certainly seek to protect him. But, what would he have to gain by leaking that information? It's pretty clear that he was not a full-supporter of this administration, but would he go that far, do you think?

I don't know. Maybe you've got something there. If I could just see what he would have gained by doing such a thing.
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[PhantomSgt]

Do they really expect anyone to believe it was Rove? Also they expect us to believe that a couple of MSM reporters would go to jail to protect Rove. Yeah and Santa really exists.

They would have rolled over in a New York minute if it had been Rove.

In fact, they would have leaked it out themselves by now and blamed someone else.

God Save America from the MSM.




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