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Uisguex Jack
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I have to think about this seriously for a bit before I say it in full.
I do though think the helen thomas thing is funny.
This however is a very profound matter, as was clearly drawn out in the Hume interview when VP Cheney and Brit each referenced Aaron Burr. VP's don't often shoot voters... don't matter who the voter is, he's a voter.
By the same token I think releasing the story as they did was absolutely appropriate. This is a Tejas news Item, it is the owner of the ranch and witness to the shootings business more primarily than any one else’s...'
However the VP screwed up big time....... I cringe at what the esteemed M.Moore..(aka Jaaba michael moore) is going to do with this.
I hunt (very rarely), own guns and manage hunters frequently, dis is not good.
I think he might best resign immediately and put Ms Rice in his place..... Make him Sec Of state....
Not looking forward to seeing how this plays out.
On another side of the Dice is how the nice Islamists will view this; They decapitate folks for press time beyond their aljaquera information chanel They will have to kill a whole slew of something to get themselves back on the front pages.
Meanwhile, Dick Cheney has no bigger fan than I. The guy is the real McCoy.... He did very well in his interview.
My prayers are with the guy with the bird shot in his face and his family, he screwed up as well but he did not pull the trigger. |
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Schadow
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Speaking of delayed announcements, Harry Reid suffered a "mild stroke" at his home in Searchlight, Nevada on Tuesday, August 16, 2005. The first announcement of this event occured on Friday, August 19, three days after the stroke:
| Quote: | | Asked why announcement of the event was delayed for three days, [Press Secretary Tessa] Hafen said, "The reason was the tests and the evaluations that they were doing. We wanted to make sure we knew what we were announcing. You need conclusive information." |
Full story here
My memory is pretty good but darned if I can remember hearing about this, much less a great spasm from the press over their hero not informing them instantly.
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baldeagle
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So, the veep met today with Britt Hume of Fox News, took complete responsibility for the incident and for the timing of the release, said it was his decision and his alone to delay the notification to the press.
The thing I liked best was a later comment by Hume during the roundtable part of the show.
He commented that he had run into a reporter from a rival network outside the Whitehouse, who had asked him if he was selected by the veep for the interview because Fox was "Republican leaning" in their views. He said that he replied that "he thought it was probably because Fox had the larger viewing audience", but did not expect to see that clip on the rivals network.
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PhantomSgt
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| baldeagle wrote: | So, the veep met today with Britt Hume of Fox News, took complete responsibility for the incident and for the timing of the release, said it was his decision and his alone to delay the notification to the press.
The thing I liked best was a later comment by Hume during the roundtable part of the show.
He commented that he had run into a reporter from a rival network outside the Whitehouse, who had asked him if he was selected by the veep for the interview because Fox was "Republican leaning" in their views. He said that he replied that "he thought it was probably because Fox had the larger viewing audience", but did not expect to see that clip on the rivals network. |
Was the reporter from MSNBC or the Certified nonsense network?
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Uisguex Jack
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | "he thought it was probably because Fox had the larger viewing audience" |
That was a pretty damn good line, The Msm see's some conspiricy with Fox. The facts are the facts, Fox trumps all the other news outlets considerably.
So first the problem was the news outlet was not big enough, the paper in texas, next the news outlet is too big. What's the name of the childs story for spoiled brats?
I think it's the Princess and thePea.
Further Hume's interview cut no slack, and I didn't see the V.P. duck one question. |
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AMOS
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject: I Agree. |
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| I heard the "shootee" himself said "It's much ado about nothing". I agree. Yawn. |
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homesteader
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Just let the games continue. The longer it goes and more the MSM stomps their collective feet and pouts, (the more they make it about themselves) the more childish and irrelevent they appear. |
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becca1223
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| Quote: | Spoiled brat media
By Thomas Sowell
Feb 16, 2006
The first revolt of the American colonists against their British rulers was immortalized by Ralph Waldo Emerson as "the shot heard round the world." Vice President Dick Cheney's hunting accident has now become the shot heard round the Beltway.
The accidental shooting of Harry Whittington, while he was on a hunting trip with Dick Cheney, has nothing to do with government policy or the Vice President's official duties but the mainstream media have gone ballistic over it nevertheless.
They are also angry that the news was not given to them more quickly, which prevented it from becoming the feeding frenzy of the Sunday television talk shows. Whether this delay was deliberate or otherwise, it is being called a "cover-up" in the media, as if there were some crime to cover up.
NBC White House correspondent David Gregory was shouting at White House press secretary Scott McClellan, as if Mr. Gregory's Constitutional rights were being violated. It was a classic example of a special interest demanding special privileges -- as if they were rights.
There is nothing in the Constitution or the laws that says that the media have a right to be in the White House at all, much less to have press conferences.
This has become a customary courtesy over the years, but courtesy is a two-way street, except for those in the media who act like spoiled brats, as if they have some inherent right to whatever serves their institutional, career, or ideological purposes.
The media love to wrap themselves in the mantle of "the public's right to know" but there is no such dedication to that right when it goes against the journalists' own prejudices.
The public's right to know what a "partial birth abortion" is has been consistently disregarded for years by whole networks, even when they have given wide coverage to abortion controversies. Whatever your position on abortions, you need to know what you are talking about but the media recognize no such "right to know."
If you knew, you might not agree with them.
The same journalists who used phony documents to attack President Bush's military service recognize no "right to know" why Senator John Kerry's honorable discharge is dated long after his service was over and during the Carter administration, when less than honorable discharges were allowed to be upgraded to honorable.
The "public's right to know" apparently extends only to such things as will not cause the public to reach conclusions different from those of the liberal media.
My favorite press secretary was Margaret Tutwiler, who treated reporters like misbehaving little boys, which is how they often acted. Nor were the reporters' antics due solely to personal boorishness.
They had before them the example of Dan Rather and Sam Donaldson, who reached the big time on TV by being snotty to Presidents. At the very least, White House correspondents can get more time on the tube by waxing indignant at what they choose to portray as violations of "the public's right to know" while the cameras are rolling.
An off-duty incident in Dick Cheney's private life has been hyped in the media as if it had some real significance for more than a quarter of a billion Americans.
The media want to know when was President Bush informed about this incident? What did the White House press secretary know and when did he know it?
The people who mattered -- doctors and local law enforcement -- were informed immediately about the hunting accident. What was President Bush supposed to do -- other than provide the media with something to print or broadcast?
The media are so full of themselves -- among other things that they are full of -- that they act as if the government exists to provide them with something to publicize. The time is long overdue to put these people in their place. Where is Margaret Tutwiler when we need her?
The New York Times informs us solemnly that, if Mr. Whittington dies, there will be a grand jury investigation.
If Mr. Whittington is so uncooperative as not to die, there will be much disappointment and frustration in Beltway media circles.
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LewWaters
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| Quote: | | An off-duty incident in Dick Cheney's private life has been hyped in the media as if it had some real significance for more than a quarter of a billion Americans. |
Isn't this the same media and leftists that said the Monica Lewinsky matter wasn't anyone's business, since it was Clinton's "Private Life?" |
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Schadow
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[quote="becca1223"] | Quote: | Spoiled brat media
By Thomas Sowell
Feb 16, 2006
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The same journalists who used phony documents to attack President Bush's military service recognize no "right to know" why Senator John Kerry's honorable discharge is dated long after his service was over and during the Carter administration, when less than honorable discharges were allowed to be upgraded to honorable. |
This is truly amazing. To my knowledge, Sowell is the first writer outside the blogosphere to come out with this very important question.
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Me#1You#10
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| Schadow wrote: | This is truly amazing. To my knowledge, Sowell is the first writer outside the blogosphere to come out with this very important question.
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GREAT Sowell article becca...and worthy of a topic unto itself...
http://www.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=21705 |
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Schadow
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| Me#1You#10 wrote: | | ...and worthy of a topic unto itself... |
The record of a discharge upgrade, should one exist, HAS to be somewhere. Probably deeper even than a full SF 180. Has a Freedom of Information Act request into this ever been initiated? Are we sure that there was no lingering reserve service over the years leading up to an honorable discharge?
So many questions. So few answers. Yes, it is probably worthy of a 'topic unto itself.'
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