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Theresa Alwood · Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:07 am Post subject:

Why is it that we are now expected to just join John McCain or hold our nose and vote for him?

I do not respect, nor like Senator McCain and have not for years. So somehow I am to set aside my differences with a man who has done nothing but spit on the GOP. Of course, friend, he is just working with the democrats...where I do not see it that way.

I am not an one issue voter...I could have easliy pulled the trigger for ANY other candidate but McCain and that does include Rudy. I liked him.

But this is just more than one issue...it is more than just the war in Iraq. It is clear that Senator McCain thought nothing of his party with the McCain/Kennedy immigration bill. Senator McCain cleary debated to switch parties and other than the war on terror I see NO difference between Hillary or McCain...and somehow I am to respect Senator McCain because he served and was a POW and he he exempt from any tough questions.

What promises is Senator McCain going to make to the base to ensure that he gets our votes. I do not Trust the man and there lies the whole issue of voting for the man.

President Bush was not my first choice in 2000 but I had no problems pulling the lever in his favor as I saw hugh differences betwen Al Gore and George Bush...as for John Kerry there was no decision to make.

But yet in this election I am suppose to forget all the damage John McCain did do the GOP? I truly beleive he did the things he did was to get back at President Bush because Senator McCain did not like loosing the GOP nomination to George Bush and NOTHING is going to stand in his way to get this nomination, but somehow I should forget all his prior acts and vote for the party?

Other than just to stop Hillary? or Obama? Where is the differnce other than the war? We all know they can not pull the troops out.

I guess the ONLY way I will vote for McCain will be who he choose as a VP. Otherwise I will write in a name.

I should not have to vote for the lesser of the two evils and that is what I feel like I am being forced to do. Choose between two people that I would not let watch my kids...let alone my country.
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dcornutt · PO3 Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 267 Location: Brooklyn, NY

I think the GOP managed to damage itself well enough without McCain's help.

Blue Sky · Seaman Recruit Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 5

I seldom comment in this site but I check in periodically and for what it's worth I'd like to add my two cents worth.

Most of the comments are about Senator McCain; some are upset because Gov. Romney dropped out. Has the media also convinced you that Gov. Huckabee has no chance at the nomination? He has my wholehearted support. None of the Republican candidates seem to have the whole package but I believe Huckabee is strong on principle. Right now he is the only non-senator who is still in the race (except for Ron Paul).

As some writers have said, he is fighting Goliath and if you look deep into his pockets he just may have a few smooth stones. Wink

BuffaloJack · Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:43 pm Post subject:

What is happening to the GOP is just part of a campaign started in the 50s and 60s. Check out "The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals" at the link http://www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm

This was predicted in 1963 by Congressman A. S. Herlong, Jr., who had the plot read into the Congressional Record.

If you skip down to step "15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. ", then you will easily see that the socialists and communists have declared victory in subjugating the Democrats and have now moved on to the Republicans.
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GenrXr · Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject:

Me#1You#10 · Site Admin Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 6503

#17 sure gets my attention...

BuffaloJack · Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject:

Me#1You#10,
I don't know if you read all 45 of the goals, but it is surprising and sobering how many of them have come to pass. I'd bet that it is way over 50% and may even be as much as 3/4 of them.
I counted 29 goals completely met and a half dozen more as possibles.
Basically the GOP is being communized, and we don't know how to stop it.
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BuffaloJack · Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject:

dcornutt · PO3 Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 267 Location: Brooklyn, NY

Here's the bigger question..."why"...do strict conservative, staus quo candidates no longer get traction and seem unelectable (even within the RNC) at this point? Why are so many republican congressmen abandoning their posts and choosing to retire rather than run for re-election? Why is that? Becuase of the communist and socialist ideas that have always been present here in one form or another? I think not. IT's because the RNC having been handed the keys to our entire gov and having the full trust of the people, betrayed that trust. EVEN as people were out there defending them, they were guilty and continued to betray that trust up and till they were removed from congress and/or carted off to jail, or simply had to go run hide after their little "secrets" were unvieled publically.

The "reason" many people have been voting and working hard since '06 to remove every semblence of the RNCs and/or "conservatives" from gov is NOT because the general population has suddenly become enthralled with communism. It's because they resent and reject these same people and movements for betraying the trust and mandate given to them by turning over our entire gov to them.....and then watching what they did with it. There "is" still that to deal with that. The larger point being...none of those candiates talked about "that"...except McCain. He talked alot about it. Romeny and Hucakabee just smile and talk about how they want to continue on with the same great tradition of conservative values and principals in gov Rolling Eyes

Yes...our party has betrayed every mandate and trust you have given us.
And I'll bring more of the same, and I'm the candidate who can do that (smile)

No..you should NOT give up your conservative ideals and nobody is asking you to. You should, however, realize that the car we are all riding in didn't get into the ditch because of "communism" nor any other leftward influence. IT got there in full control of the RNC. The voters are going to decide who gets the keys to try and dig us out. And they are most certainly NOT going to give the keys "back" to whomever they feel is the same person who drove it into the ditch in the first place! That will never happen. If the RNC were to present that option to voters, we would loose ...entirely—which is exactly why the DNC is trying hard to define McCain as "status quo" Republican right now.

coldwarvet · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:36 pm Post subject:

Me#1You#10

dcornutt · PO3 Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 267 Location: Brooklyn, NY

Going down with the ship is always an option.

Also, having read your PDF there, if you ask me, I find nothing in it to hold over McCain's head. It even has a section on the "environment" in it for cripes sake. There are some RNC orgs that would call YOU a RINO for that alone.

Perhaps you can help me here by pointing out which statutes of your MN RNC handbook that you used to determine that McCain is not a Republican by your definition?

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coldwarvet · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject:

dcornutt · PO3 Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 267 Location: Brooklyn, NY