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The Ghost
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| carpro wrote: |
And Kerry speaks not at all of anything AFTER 1969.  |
and he doesn't tell much of the truth when he talks about much of that time period
it was kerry that made that the center of his battle |
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PENJ
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| Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| carpro wrote: | | You are also trying to influence the election and so am I. So What. |
Well, I am not claiming to have information that others don't have. I am not claiming to have damning evidence.
I have already ordered the book and am waiting for it to arrive.
That said, the burden of proof does not lie with the accused but the accuser. |
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Navy_Navy_Navy
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PENJ, Swifts sent out an ad with a cover letter and over a HUNDRED PAGES of sworn affidavits and other exhibits to support their accusations.
I believe they're carrying the burden of proof rather well.
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The Ghost
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| Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| PENJ wrote: |
Well, I am not claiming to have information that others don't have. I am not claiming to have damning evidence.
I have already ordered the book and am waiting for it to arrive.
That said, the burden of proof does not lie with the accused but the accuser. |
the proof is that they was there also
even the men on kerry's boat admitted that they was never in cambodia
now kerry has made up more lies to cover the first lie on the christmas in cambodia story
you ever roll a snow ball down a hill ?? well that is just like kerries lies ,,they continue to get bigger |
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PENJ
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| Navy_Navy_Navy wrote: | | PENJ wrote: |
Again, I watched C-Span prior to the Iowa caucuses and the NH primary. In the townhalls, he rarely spoke of his Vietnam experience. Instead, he spoke of his senate experience when answering questions dealing with the issues that they raised. |
BZZZZZTTTTT!
Sorry, but that is patently untrue. |
Oh, now, you are calling me a liar?
I have many of these townhalls on videotape. I must've watched at least a dozen hours of Kerry answering questions. I can only remember one instance where he talked about Vietnam and that was when he was asked about it. Most of the time he talked about health care and jobs.
Now, were there other townhalls/speeches where he brought up Vietnam? Certainly. I bet, however, even that time in Missisippi he talked about other things, but the press picked up on that reference.
Mind you that Vietnam was a big part of his Senate experience as well. So it wasn't just those four months that he was there. |
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PENJ
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| Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Navy_Navy_Navy wrote: | PENJ, Swifts sent out an ad with a cover letter and over a HUNDRED PAGES of sworn affidavits and other exhibits to support their accusations.
I believe they're carrying the burden of proof rather well. |
Well, we shall see. The cross examination has just begun. |
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Navy_Navy_Navy
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| Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| PENJ wrote: |
Oh, now, you are calling me a liar? |
I am calling you mistaken.
| Quote: | | I have many of these townhalls on videotape. |
Do you have them all? Do you have all the footage from all his campaign visits?
Can you explain how his Vietnam service came to be such a common joke before he even won his first primary?
His Senatorial career is nothing to be proud of and he knows it, especially with regard to his betrayal of POW/MIA's and their families.
He can't very well run on that, can he?
"My Committee recommended establishing trade and diplomacy with Vietnam even though we had strong evidence that Vietnam was not disclosing the truth about our missing, but hey, it's okay. My cousin made almost a billion dollars in a construction deal with Vietnam shortly thereafter." 
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carpro
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| Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| carpro wrote: | They were there. Kerry is not questioning their credentials. He knows who they are and they have him scared to death because he knows what they know and what they can tell.
When Kerry personally questtions their credentials, then maybe you can chime in with a great big...YEAH. |
Worth Repeating.
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The Ghost
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Oh, now, you are calling me a liar?
I have many of these townhalls on videotape. I must've watched at least a dozen hours of Kerry answering questions. I can only remember one instance where he talked about Vietnam and that was when he was asked about it. Most of the time he talked about health care and jobs.
Now, were there other townhalls/speeches where he brought up Vietnam? Certainly. I bet, however, even that time in Missisippi he talked about other things, but the press picked up on that reference.
Mind you that Vietnam was a big part of his Senate experience as well. So it wasn't just those four months that he was there. |
yes and guess what ,,he has told the cambodia lie in the senate too
ok ,,being you know and have seen kerry give his speeches ,,how about just knocking off what three of his speeches was about ,,now i am talking about the ones where he didn't talk about his vietnam experiences at all |
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PENJ
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| Navy_Navy_Navy wrote: | His Senatorial career is nothing to be proud of and he knows it, especially with regard to his betrayal of POW/MIA's and their families.
He can't very well run on that, can he?
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How did Kerry betray POW/MIA's and their families? From my understanding, his investigation included such POW/MIA hardliners as Bob Smith. For a lot of families, it brought closure. For my next door neighbor, it brought the remains of her son back for proper burial.
If you want to talk about indifference, how come Kissenger wasn't able to negotiate for the MIA's in Laos? (That's where my neighbor's son disappeared.)
If this current President is such a friend of Vietnam Veterans, how come he stood by while the service of John McCain was trashed? How come he supported Sununu over the incumbant Republican Senator and Vietnam Veteran Bob Smith in 2002? |
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carpro
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[quote="PENJ
If this current President is such a friend of Vietnam Veterans, how come he stood by while the service of John McCain was trashed? How come he supported Sununu over the incumbant Republican Senator and Vietnam Veteran Bob Smith in 2002?[/quote]
You keep missing the main point of this forum. This is not about Bush. He just happens to be Kerry's opponent.
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The Ghost
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| PENJ wrote: |
If this current President is such a friend of Vietnam Veterans, how come he stood by while the service of John McCain was trashed? How come he supported Sununu over the incumbant Republican Senator and Vietnam Veteran Bob Smith in 2002? |
it seems that the veterans in the vfw sure like bush a lot more then they liked kerry
did you wonder why some of them stood and faced their backs to kerry ?? |
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PENJ
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You keep missing the main point of this forum. This is not about Bush. He just happens to be Kerry's opponent. |
OK. I will stick to Kerry's four months on the swift boats. |
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The Ghost
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| The Ghost wrote: | | PENJ wrote: |
Oh, now, you are calling me a liar?
I have many of these townhalls on videotape. I must've watched at least a dozen hours of Kerry answering questions. I can only remember one instance where he talked about Vietnam and that was when he was asked about it. Most of the time he talked about health care and jobs.
Now, were there other townhalls/speeches where he brought up Vietnam? Certainly. I bet, however, even that time in Missisippi he talked about other things, but the press picked up on that reference.
Mind you that Vietnam was a big part of his Senate experience as well. So it wasn't just those four months that he was there. |
yes and guess what ,,he has told the cambodia lie in the senate too
ok ,,being you know and have seen kerry give his speeches ,,how about just knocking off what three of his speeches was about ,,now i am talking about the ones where he didn't talk about his vietnam experiences at all |
20 minutes and counting
you see you must not remembered any of what kerry said that he done in the senate
he spews what he is going to do with the peoples money that he is going to get that make over $200,000 tax increases
but the problem is ,what he is going to get from that isn't going to be anywhere near enough ,,not even a 1/4 of what he says he is going to do |
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Navy_Navy_Navy
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| Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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How did Kerry betray POW/MIA's and their families? |
Read up on it and we'll talk.
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