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Beatrice1000
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| Navy_Navy_Navy wrote: | ....Long live the Minutemen ....Let's deploy Minutemen all across the border, if it gets that kind of reinforcement. Hell, I'd volunteer for this project myself if I lived closer - and the good news is that I soon will!  |
Well all right then NNN – they won’t know what hit ‘em!!….
I note at the Team America website (Tom Tancredo, Founding Chair), they have ongoing “Minuteman Field Reports” (including the one above, and many others). Check back from time to time, as they update these reports:
**MINUTEMAN FIELD REPORTS**
These are interesting to read in full – here are a few snippets from various reports:
| Quote: | | The largest group has scattered, they are hiding from Border Patrol agents under numerous bushes and are hiding in citizens’ yards. The reported number in this group is 50. This group is scattered over more them a square mile. Although a report was heard that 3 illegals knocked on a residents door at 11:00 p.m. asking for help and telling the home owners that they are traveling with a group of over 200. Americans here are surrounded, some awake and listening to dogs barking, some out in the dark reporting small groups of 2 and 3 walking past them. But most folks are just trying to get some sleep so they can go to school and work tomorrow. And I am wondering how safe it will be for our small children to be on these same rural roads to wait for the big yellow school bus… |
| Quote: | | There are multiple other groups flowing into your country, America. Reports are coming in of numerous loads of 20, some at the Circle-K and possible others laid up behind the store. |
| Quote: | | Recently, a drunken illegal alien wandered onto their ranch at night. She was home alone with her children. The illegal alien pounded on their front door. Robin said she and her terrified children crawled on their stomachs to the back of their house to get away from him. |
| Quote: | | We were told by local ranchers that they have never seen so many border patrol. That this show of force was for the MMP. The barbed wire border fence is a joke. It's about shoulder high. |
| Quote: | | Our area was littered with many Gatorade bottles. Many, many plastic bags. ....There were endless numbers of cans, sweatshirts, a hair brush, razors, a cell phone, a little Spanish Bible, many backpacks, sandals, tennis shoes, blankets, a powder puff, tuna cans, Tequila bottles, beer cans, a well used address book in Spanish..... One of our Minutewomen found a black ski mask. There were many toothbrushes and tubes of toothpaste. It is heart breaking to see the beautiful desert literally covered in trash. .... Where the hell are the environmentalists on this issue of unbelievable trash? |
| Quote: | | ...a Mexican group on Mexican soil that supposedly rescues crossers, called Grupo Beta, was stationed to encourage crossers approaching the 20 mile MMP teams to return home. We were told military were also in the area. The Grupo Beta wore bright orange shirts and drove new orange trucks. .....The local ranchers told us that they had never seen these "orange coats" before. It was a first for them. |
| Quote: | | We would from time to time see people who may have been migrants get in the backs of their orange trucks. One time we saw a group of about 8 single file coming over the horizon. Our entire 9 team section activated. We were radioing each other. …. Well, they turned out to be reporters! American reporters interviewing the Mexican national government workers. |
| Quote: | | Our presence stopped illegal crossings in this area - normally commonplace. On Tuesday, we did see a young man appear among the orange guys who had a huge rifle slung over his shoulder. The Minutemen in my group knew the rifle make and said it had a scope. This guy was in his 20s, in a tee shirt, black pants and baseball cap. No uniform. Our entire line watched him through binoculars. He would zigzag around. Talk to the orange coats. ….. When I related the event to a local rancher who stopped by to talk with us, he told me that the guy was definitely a coyote. He also said anyone out there on the Mexican side is part of the bribery and smuggling even if they are government employees. |
| Quote: | | One border patrol agent told me that the Mexican humanitarian orange coat guys routinely shake down the crossers. He laughed when I called the Mexican orange coats humanitarians. Another agent told me that the border patrol was very glad we were there. When we asked about the so called sensors Minutemen were setting off, he laughed and said the spokesmen were saying what they'd been told to say. He gave us a thumbs up when he drove off. |
| Quote: | | Our night shift had said that a rancher had pulled up in his truck, emerged from the darkness, holding the hands of his two small children and thanked the Minutemen over and over. |
| Quote: | | Personally, I had no problem with the ACLU at the MMP. They would just stand around quietly in their matching tee shirts. As the week wore on, I noticed the number of ACLU observers diminished significantly. |
| Quote: | I put up my 2 flags on the border fence in between a BIG 20' wide hole in the fence.
The Mexican Government had someone from Groupo Beta (a rescue unit) using his ATV to knock down the brush in front of the hole in the fence and along the trial leading to the fence so the migrants would be able to see the hole in the fence and the path better. The man on the ATV is grooming the trial leading up to the hold in the fence. This is the hole in the fence. You can see the trail where the ATV Grupo Beta was crushing down the weeds.
Please encourage everyone write the President/Senators/Congress telling to put the National Guard at the border because we now know MMP stopped hundreds of migrants from crossing the border thus becoming illegal aliens! National Guard needs to step in on April 30. Hoards of illegals will cross when we leave. |
| Quote: | | I saw plenty of vigilantes while I was there calling themselves "La Raza", MECha, and the ACLU. Fortunately the Minutemen and Minutewomen far outnumbered the vigilantes. |
| Quote: | | According to local ranchers who have land right on the border they have never seen so many Sheriff Deputies, Border Patrol Agents in the area and have never seen the Grupo Beta and the Federales on the Mexican side. They do see the Mexican Army occasionally. They stated that prior to our arrival they observed trucks, pickups, vans, and even occasionally taxi cabs bringing people up to the border and dropping them off. The Mexicans then walk across the border at the first opportunity. |
| Quote: | | The Sheriffs Department notified us that a Hispanic individual from Tennessee had telephoned them that he was loading up his friends and coming to Arizona to engage the Minutemen in a gunfight. The FBI was notified. 4 hours later the FBI notified us that this individual was definitely not coming to Arizona. It was assumed they arrested this person. |
| Quote: | | The BP receive hundreds of calls daily from citizens reporting illegals along the highway, in the border towns, on private property, on public property, at their homes asking for and in some cases demanding food and water. I hear they don’t have half the manpower they need so a lot of calls go unanswered. |
| Quote: | | There are over 200 Minutemen manning observation posts working in shifts 24 hours per day. At any time you can observe Mexicans laying up just waiting for a chance to make the dash to cross over. Members of the Grupo Beta, (Mexican refugee assistance group), Federales (Mexican National Police) and Mexican soldiers continuously patrol the border to direct those waiting to cross over to go around that section of the border Minutemen are observing. We have been very successful in shutting down the influx of illegals in the areas where we have been posted. |
| Quote: | | You had better WAKE UP America. They are coming to your town. If you can’t believe they are a threat to our way of life, and our society come to the Arizona border, talk to the locals and see for yourself. Get involved. It is an eye opener. In recent polls 80% of American want our borders secured. Are you listening El Presidente?? Close the borders. Enforce our laws. |
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illegals run into the Marines-- call BP for help
KVOA TV Tucson
http://www.kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=3187890
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Illegals crossing through Arizona military training areas
April 9, 2005, 12:21 PM
Along the Arizona-Mexico border near Yuma, Marines train for air combat on a massive military installation., but the area also happens to be a hot-spot for illegal immigration.
On Thursday, the border patrol received a distress call from seven migrant crossers, who happened to be stranded on the military site.
"We talked to them and found out there were actually twenty more that were up in the mountains, waiting to be rescued," said Border Patrol agent Vincent Hampel.
Nothing new for the Border Patrol, whose BORSTAR team rescues hundreds of distressed migrants, all across the U.S.-Mexico border, every year.
But apparently, illegal migrants are nothing new on this particular military site either. Last year, 1,500 illegal immigrants were apprehended there.
Already in the first three months of this year, the number is over 1,100.
It's forced the training range to shut down more than 500 times in the last six months, for a total of 1,100 training hours lost.
"Every moment that's lost, it means we accept more risk in a combat theatre that our people won't come home," says Marine Colonel James Cooney.
Crossings on military sites also increase the danger for the illegal immigrants themselves.
This video shows a pilot dropping a practice bomb during a training exercise. Seconds after the bomb lands, you can see illegal immigrants, highlighted here, running from the target.
"God that was a close call," Cooney notes. |
....go to the source link to watch the video
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Beatrice1000
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ACLU observers watch on the left as a Mexican military vehicle approaches. It is not known whether the military was trying to impress, assist or intimidate MinuteMan Project volunteers. We suspect the latter.
Go here for more: **Photo journal of the MinuteMan Project**
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/04/15/border.patrol.ap/index.html
| Quote: | Border volunteers want to expand to other states
Friday, April 15, 2005 Posted: 8:37 AM EDT (1237 GMT)
TUCSON, Arizona (AP) -- Organizers of a project that uses civilian volunteers to watch for illegal immigrants and smugglers along the Arizona-Mexico border want to expand their efforts to other border states this fall.
Participants in the Minuteman Project have been patrolling a stretch of the southeastern Arizona border since earlier this month, but they would like to organize patrols in other high-traffic smuggling areas.
Minuteman organizer Chris Simcox said the project "ignited a national wave of support" with its goal of securing the border against illegal immigrants, smugglers and potential terrorists. He said an expansion would take at least four months.
The volunteers, some of whom are armed, began spreading out earlier this month along a 23-mile stretch of desert between the border communities of Naco and Douglas. They may alert authorities when they see someone cross the border, but are not allowed to detain anyone.
Angela Kelley, deputy director of the pro-immigrant National Immigration Forum in Washington, doubts that the Minuteman Project will result in lasting change.
"The Minutemen can urge their friends to come spend the warm summer months in the desert, but I don't know that that's going to address our concerns about changing our immigration policy," she said.
Law enforcement officials have said they fear the project will lead to vigilante violence, an accidental confrontation between armed volunteers and authorities, or a dangerous encounter with the violent smugglers who use the area.
Minuteman spokesmen said their patrols have resulted in 268 arrests of illegal immigrants since April 4.
The Border Patrol has acknowledged receiving 317 calls from Naco and Douglas, resulting in 846 arrests, but the agency will not say whether any of those calls came from project volunteers. Border agents have caught 2,373 people in the Naco area this month.
Arizona is considered the most vulnerable stretch of the 2,000-mile southern U.S. border. Of the 1.1 million illegal immigrants caught by the Border Patrol last year, more than half crossed the border through Arizona.
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Beatrice1000
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| Quote: | Letter from Congressman Tom Tancredo
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April 11, 2005
Mr. James Gilchrist
and Mr. Chris Simcox
C/o Miracle Valley Bible College
9224 E Hwy 92
Hereford, AZ 95615
Dear Jim and Chris:
Congratulations on your immensely successful minuteman Project! By all reports you have accomplished your primary mission, which was to draw public attention to the deplorable and unacceptable conditions on our borders. You have demonstrated that a physical presence on the border will deter illegal crossings, and the world can now see this.
By the Border Patrol's count the apprehensions so far this month are down over 50%. Mexican military units have diverted migrants east and west away from the naco area, showing that the Mexican government can control the exits if it choses to do so. The Border Patrol also increased its presense in the Naco area and announced new manpower assigned to the Arizona regions.
Congratulations on a job well done!! Mission Accomplished!!
I invite the two of you to come to Washington, DC next week to meet with me and the members of the immigration Reform Causus. I want you to tell the Congress the story of the Minuteman Project and what you accomplished. Please plan on arriving Tuesday and meeting with the Causus on Wednesday. We will also hold a news conference that day with several members of Congress participating.
Please convey my congratulations and admiration to all your Minuteman volunteers.
Sincerely,
Tom Tancredo, Member of Congress |
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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43859
Border Patrol union supports Minutemen
Says it has had no complaints about monitors, blasts Bush over amnesty
April 18, 2005
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| Quote: | The largest local union of Border Patrol agents in the country has declared its support for the Minuteman Project in Arizona, while at the same time slamming both the American Civil Liberties Union and President Bush.
According to its website, the U.S. Border Patrol Local 2544, which covers the Tucson sector of the agency, the volunteers involved in the border-monitoring Minuteman Project have been nothing but supportive
We want to make it clear – because we've had a lot of questions about this – we have not had one single complaint from a rank-and-file agent in this sector about the Minutemen," says a statement on the site. "Every report we've received indicates these people are very supportive of the rank-and-file agents; they're courteous. Many of them are retired firefighters, cops, and other professionals, and they're not causing us any problems whatsoever."
The group blames the ACLU for setting off ground sensors in the area of the Minutemen activities:
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Beatrice1000
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| kate wrote: | Border Patrol union supports Minutemen
Says it has had no complaints about monitors, blasts Bush over amnesty |
Thanks for that article, Kate.
| Quote: | The Minuteman Project News release, April 18, 2005
April 18, 2005 (Tombstone, AZ)---The Minuteman Project (MMP) stated today that because of the tremendous success of their grassroots effort in just 17 days of operations, MMP involvement in border monitoring in Cochise County will cease at 2pm on Wednesday, April 20. MMP founder Jim Gilchrist will take their success to Washington, DC at the invitation of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus. Gilchrist stated: "We have demonstrated that ordinary citizens sitting in lawn chairs not only have the will but the means to secure our border. If our own elected officials will not defend our nation's border, American citizens will."
Border monitoring will continue until the end of April under the direction of Civil Homeland Defense, an organization that Chris Simcox founded 2 1/2 years ago to monitor the border in this area. Civil Homeland Defense created the tactical organizational model that provided the infrastructure for the Minuteman Project. CONTINUED |
| Quote: | Open letter from Jim Gilchrist, the MinuteMan Project, April 18, 2005
Dear Americans:
I am pleased to announce that the Minuteman Project in Cochise County, Arizona has been an outstanding success in its first 17 days of operations. <…>
Activities sponsored by the Project will continue indefinitely in this area under the direction and guidance of Chris Simcox of Civil Homeland Defense, headquartered at Tombstone, Arizona. This is not a withdrawal of civilian volunteers from their observation and reporting activities in Cochise County.
We have been approached by citizens in adjoining states about forming similar projects to help them protect their own borders - a job our President and Congress will not do. The Minuteman Project will take the next few months to reorganize, expand, and to become larger, better, and stronger. CONTINUED |
| Quote: | Open letter from Chris Simcox, the MinuteMan Project, April 18, 2005
Fellow Americans:
I am pleased to announce the phenomenal success of Minuteman Project in Cochise County, Arizona in its first 17 days of operations. At 2 pm on Wednesday, April 20, 2005, Civil Homeland Defense volunteers will assume full operational control of the civilian border watch effort through the end of the month and will continue the effort indefinitely. Minuteman Project founder Jim Gilchrist will direct his efforts towards organizing the second phase of the Minuteman Project that will protest employers who hire illegal aliens. Jim Gilchrist will join me in taking our success to Washington, DC at the invitation of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus.
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We are determined to assist the US Border Patrol in becoming an effective arm of the Department of Homeland Security in spite of the lack of support and funding from Congress and our President. There is no compromise - we will continue to exercise our civic duty until relieved by the National Guard and the US Military. CONTINUED |
BRAVO! and my deep gratitude to all the participants in the MMP!! It will be exciting to follow MMP Phase II (yikes – some employers must be scurrying at this point) and to watch the Civil Homeland Defense grow and expand.
Civilian volunteers assisting the military in security operations is not a novel idea – in fact another group of citizen “vigilantes” have a legislative mandate authorizing them to carry out their fine work….:
“For nearly 60 years, tens-of-thousands of men and women of the Coast Guard Auxiliary have spent millions of volunteer hours helping the Coast Guard carry out its mission. …..Yet, they do much more and will be doing even more following passage of the Coast Guard Authorization Act of 1996. The purpose of the Act, passed Oct. 19, is to assist the Coast Guard, as authorized by the Commandant, in performance of any Coast Guard function, duty, role, mission or operation authorized by law.”
The MMP and “Civil Homeland Defense” have a precedent not only in America's past but also in the present – now what they need is the honor and respect they deserve.
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Beatrice1000
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| Quote: | “21st Century Minutemen,” by Mark Landsbaum, FrontPageMag – 4/21/05
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President George Bush called them “vigilantes.” Self-appointed “civil rights” activists called them “racists.” The U.S. Border Patrol fretted that they might injure someone or be hurt themselves. And Mexico’s president threatened to haul them into international court. But the 635 volunteers who compose the Minuteman Project apparently have done what their president, the civil rights hacks, the Border Patrol, and the Mexican government have been unable to do: stem the flood of illegal aliens across a notoriously porous 23-mile stretch of Arizona’s border with Mexico. <..>
By last count (April 12), Minuteman Project volunteers had “directly facilitated” 268 Border Patrol apprehensions along the stretch of border previously noted as the most vulnerable area for illegal immigrants to gain access to the U.S. ……The Minuteman Project volunteers also are proving to be exactly what they said they were from day one: nonviolent patriots seeking to awaken the public and their government to the need for effective action to halt the millions of illegal immigrants pouring across the border. <..>
USA Today, which views the civilian patrols an “unfortunate” action, grudgingly editorialized that, “Certainly, the ‘Minutemen’ have scored a publicity coup that has put burrs under the saddles of the Border Patrol and even President Bush, who has called them ‘vigilantes’.”
“I think that they’re providing an excellent service,” said Rep. Tom DeLay, R-TX. “It's no different than neighborhood-watch programs and I appreciate them doing it….”
“There aren’t many border-control success stories these days, but Arizona’s Minuteman Project is quickly becoming one,” the Washington Times editorialized last week, also noting, “How ironic that the people who President Bush derided as ‘vigilantes’ are acting as much-needed extra eyes and ears for law-enforcement officials.” The Minutemen have all but sealed the U.S.-Mexico border in the 23-mile stretch they patrol,” the newspaper observed. ….
Gary Bauer, chairman of the Campaign for Working Families, noted that the Minuteman Project proves, “once again that the American people can frequently solve problems better than the bureaucrats... Moreover,” Bauer said, “the Washington Times is reporting that these dedicated citizens have succeeded in getting something done that Washington has thus far failed to achieve – Mexican enforcement of the border. According to the Times, Mexican police and military personnel are apprehending migrants and relocating them away from the border area monitored by the Minutemen volunteers. I hope the White House reconsiders its unfortunate labeling of these good folks as ‘vigilantes,” Bauer said.
Columnist Cal Thomas similarly finds value in the Minuteman Project. “Instead of praising this peaceful assembly, President Bush has called them ‘vigilantes.’ They are no such thing,” Thomas wrote. “They are citizens of this country who want to preserve what they have come to love about America. They believe open borders are destructive and illegal immigration is a threat to the security and character of the nation.”
The President and others in Washington seem slow to awakening to the threat posed by a porous border in an age of terrorism. ….. As comic Jay Leno quipped, “The United States announced a plan that will tighten all borders by 2008. Mexico announced a plan to have all their people here by 2007.”
Efforts by groups such as Minuteman Project might avoid such a joke becoming an unfunny reality. The Associated Press reported (Friday) that Minuteman organizers want to expand their efforts to other border states in the fall. Project organizer Simcox said the effort has, “ignited a national wave of support.” He said an expansion would take at least four months. In the meantime, the Minutemen are providing a much-needed service; if only the rest of the U.S.-Mexico border were as secure as the tiny stretch they patrol. |
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Squidly - you go down there, you better find a camera and wave at us!
gee, wish I could do that! camping in the desert is fun - I live in it - but then, I can shut my door at night too! but I still listen for the coyotes!
(the nonhuman ones)
think Fox is still calling the MM a 'minority'??? maybe we should turn all our sexual offenders loose on t he border with a warning that if they come back, they 'll go to prison for life?
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The Minuteman Project: Effects on Illegal Immigrants; Press Conference Scheduled for April 26 in Washington 04/22 11:50:06
| Quote: | News Advisory:
Activists in the Minuteman Project, in which volunteers help patrol the U.S.-Mexican border in Arizona, will discuss their roles in this key issue at an "Afternoon Newsmaker" news conference on Tuesday, April 26 at 2 p.m. at the National Press Club, located at 529 14th Street, NW, Washington, D.C. (13th Floor).
Jim Gilchrest is a former U.S. Marine and retired certified public accountant who started the Minuteman Project. Gilchrest will discuss the role of Minutemen volunteers and their effect on illegal immigrants crossing the border into the United States.
Chris Simcox owns a local newspaper in Arizona and started the volunteer group Civil Homeland Defense among residents along the Arizona-Mexican border. This group will take over from the Minutemen, whose volunteers are nationwide.
Chuck Floyd is a retired U.S. Army officer, former Bush presidential appointee at the State Department and former Republican candidate for U.S. Congress. Floyd will discuss proposed solutions to what he sees as "the illegal immigration crisis."
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http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=46278
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4/24/05 – NEWS RELEASE
**Minutemen off to DC to demand border reform**
Supporters encouraged to join them
April 24, 2005 (Tombstone, AZ)---The Minuteman Project is off to Washington DC during a take-no-prisoners week where its leaders will be meeting with members of Congress and participating in a rally, where they will be "demanding - not asking for - secure and safe borders," project organizer Jim Gilchrist said today.
Project cofounders Chris Simcox and Jim Gilchrist said their schedules will include the following April 25-28 events:
- Monday-Thursday: Participate in "Hold Their Feet to the Fire"** meetings with Senators and House members to push for secure borders.
- Monday: Simcox will speak at a rally from 9:00 am to 12:00 noon to protest lack of border enforcement, Lafayette Park (near the White House).
- Tuesday: Press conference at the National Press Club, 2:00 pm to 3:00 pm.
- Wednesday: Press conference from 3:30-4:00pm in 2168 Rayburn (the Gold Room). Then meet with Chairman Tom Tancredo (R-CO) and members of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus.
"The project's phenomenal success proved that our borders can be secured. Now it's time to take our message to Washington - where the real battle begins," Simcox said. Simcox hopes the thousands who he says wrote and telephoned him with messages of support will join him and others in Washington to take their demands to Congress.
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**Free Republic has a thread on this event:
"Hold Their Feet to the Fire" – a National Drive for Immigration Reform
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| Beatrice1000 wrote: | 4/24/05 – NEWS RELEASE
**Minutemen off to DC to demand border reform**
Supporters encouraged to join them
April 24, 2005 (Tombstone, AZ)---The Minuteman Project is off to Washington DC during a take-no-prisoners week where its leaders will be meeting with members of Congress and participating in a rally, where they will be "demanding - not asking for - secure and safe borders," project organizer Jim Gilchrist said today.
Project cofounders Chris Simcox and Jim Gilchrist said their schedules will include the following April 25-28 events:
- Monday-Thursday: Participate in "Hold Their Feet to the Fire"** meetings with Senators and House members to push for secure borders.
- Monday: Simcox will speak at a rally from 9:00 am to 12:00 noon to protest lack of border enforcement, Lafayette Park (near the White House).
- Tuesday: Press conference at the National Press Club, 2:00 pm to 3:00 pm.
- Wednesday: Press conference from 3:30-4:00pm in 2168 Rayburn (the Gold Room). Then meet with Chairman Tom Tancredo (R-CO) and members of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus.
"The project's phenomenal success proved that our borders can be secured. Now it's time to take our message to Washington - where the real battle begins," Simcox said. Simcox hopes the thousands who he says wrote and telephoned him with messages of support will join him and others in Washington to take their demands to Congress.
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**Free Republic has a thread on this event:
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The Beltway Bandits didn't listen before. As soon as the pressure's off, they'll become deaf again. Oh, they'll say the nice words but they'll ignore the Minutemen unless/until they expand their project to multiple states...
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| Quote: | | From the Minuteman Project website: “The April border monitoring phase has completed. The Minuteman Project is no longer taking volunteers for April. However, volunteers are needed for upcoming border monitoring efforts. Please contact Civil Homeland Defense to register. The Minuteman Project will continue to expand its efforts to focus on interior enforcement, including businesses that hire illegal aliens and sponsor illegal alien hiring halls. Please stay tuned to this website for more information on how you can help.” |
Whether or not there is any long-term effect from the MMP’s Project, I think they’ve done exceedingly well in making it to Washington and being embraced by the CIRC. I think this is quite an accomplishment for a citizen project that had run less than a month! (Much applause and gratitude for ALL the MMP volunteers!!)
| Quote: | April 27, 2005 – PRESS RELEASE
WASHINGTON, D.C. – From today’s Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus (CIRC) meeting with the Minutemen:
“I would like to thank the Minutemen on behalf of the millions of Americans who can’t be here with you today. You have the courage to say to the government of the United States, ‘Do your duty! Protect our borders! Protect our communities! Protect our families! Protect our jobs!’ You are good citizens who ask only that our laws be enforced. When did that become such a radical idea?” said Congressman Tom Tancredo (CO-06), Chairman of Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus.
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“The federal government has not done its job in securing and protecting our borders. There are over 10 million illegal immigrants in this country, most of whom cross the Mexican border at a rate of about 16,000 per week,” said Congressman Walter Jones (NC-03). “My home state of North Carolina ranks 8th in the nation for its illegal immigrant population of over 300,000. These kinds of numbers do not come without a price to the American people. It is estimated that illegal immigrants account for annual costs of $4 billion in healthcare, $7 ½ billion in education, and almost another billion for federal prisons. It is true that we are a nation of immigrants, and that is what makes America great. But for the security and protection of all our citizens, we have to demand that those wanting to come here do so through proper, legal channels. It is time the federal government steps up to the plate to defend our borders so that private citizens like those here today don't have to.” <…> |
Did anyone watch the Minutemen at the National Press Club? I wasn't able to, and I didn’t see it run on C-Span.
(On 4/26/05, they ran an NPC event with Barack Obama…. - always their choice, I guess.)
April 25, 2005: Civil Homeland Defense / Minuteman Project in Washington, DC
Chris Simcox speaking at rally across from the White House. The rally was organized by D.A. King, of The American Resistance
AZ: Volunteer wearing a Border Patrol cap in support of the hard-working Border Patrol agents on the ground.
Arizona
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Interesting discussion on C-Span (below) that took place right at the beginning of the Minuteman efforts – I’d advise listening to it if you get the chance as it shows the mindset of the people in control of the BP (he pushed the “Pres. temp worker” plan at least 3 times that I could count, and it sure sounds like they depend alot on “technology”…also, no firm policy towards Mexico, just waitin' and hopin' that they will cooperate....).
After listening to this, the need for the MMP, or now “Civil Homeland Defense” is seriously apparent:
(I took some loose notes – phrases, not always direct quotes)
| Quote: | April 4, 2005: C-Span, Washington Journal (**VIDEO**: 1 hr)
Robert Bonner, Commissioner for the Customs and Border Protection, discusses how the Customs and Border Patrol ensures security at Port of Entry in the U.S. Topic will include legal and illegal immigrants entering into the country.
BONNER: “There are “11,000 Border Patrol agents (total for Canada and Mexico).” … “In the post-9/11 era, it’s essential we control our borders… controlling our borders is a national security issue in order to prevent the potential of terrorist operatives getting into our country and carrying out their terrorist attacks.”
HOST question about MMP Project....
BONNER: “Weakest part of our border is Arizona. 1.1mil apprehensions of illegals by BP. Over one-half were illegals crossing into Arizona from Mexico, almost 600,000. … The Arizona border control initiative started last year. This year, starting phase II. Adding more boots to the ground – over 500 more BP agents to Ariz. Doubling air assets – helicopters, some fixed wing. From 19 to 42 aircraft for aerial surveillance. Interior checkpoints, enforcement operations at bus stations, etc. Customs & BP along with ICE is taking aggressive actions to disrupt smuggling – and adding mobility to BP – moving faster. We started that last month – not because of the Minutemen, but it was planned last fall. Particularly the Tucson sector of the border. clamping that down.
“A couple days ago, people involved in MMP project came down to AZ to help BP, that just started about 2-3 days ago. (HOST: Do you endorse it?) No, but Americans have a right to peaceably assemble – we respect that right. Concerned in this dangerous environment – it’s better to leave enforcement of law to the professionals like the BP. We do not encourage people to take law into their own hands. We deplore any vigilantism.”
CALL FROM SOUTH FLORIDA: Problems - law enforcement doesn’t check anyone’s ID, etc.
BONNER: “Have been fingerprinting aliens – and have since IDd over 60,000 that had criminal records. ..Used UAV last year for first time in Ariz. Need aerial patrol of our border. Now using manned aerial vehicles – but are evaluating the UAV.
CALL FROM INDIANA: labor problem in this country, with people coming in..
BONNER: 1.1mil illegals apprehended (border with Mexico) – a flood of people trying to get into US. We are determined to gain control of our border.
CALL FROM CALIFORNIA: huge problem. No problem letting Mexican people come in to work on farms – seems like your hands are tied – if one dangerous person gets thru, with terrorist threats…
BONNER: “In post-9/11 environment, it’s essential we control our border. Al Qaeda contemplates using Mexico. We know they have thought about this, that’s enough to be concerned. We have to gain control of our border – increase the rate of apprehensions. We are making serious efforts. Pres has proposed temp worker program, not passed by Congress – but it would be smart to enact the Pres program – channel the illegals into legal entry to work at jobs Americans are unable to do. Would decrease the flood the BP sees every day and night. Reduce the number of people violating the law by illegally crossing our borders, we will gain greater control of our borders. Temp worker program would help.
“…walls along the border – some fencing at certain areas of the border – they can play a role. Use technology, sensory devices, barriers, etc. There are areas of the border with no fences – just spots in desert to mark border. Nogales, AZ has most of the fencing. Sonora desert – virtually no fencing. Has some barriers. Idea is not a fence. You can go over or under a fence. What we want is technology that gives us visibility. Make sure BP has mobility to respond to intrusions. This isn’t about constructing a 2,000 mi fence – would not be a wise use of money. Would be better to get technology. Increase rate of apprehensions.
CALL FROM NEW YORK: ..bad policy from the get go…base policy: allow illegal immigrants to come in on temp policies. Millions coming in illegally. That’s the term “illegal” – remove them. Get them out. Fingerprinting people? You don’t have to take the fingerprints, just get them out. The attitude of our nation is to let them in right now.
BONNER: “No, it’s not to let them in. BP works 24/7 to do everything they can with our resources to prevent people from illegally coming in. If you can’t stop people from illegally coming in, you have to plug the hole, stop the illegal immigration into the US. Otherwise you’re just bailing water out of a sinking ship. First, gain control of our borders. Next, you need to identify & remove people illegally residing in the US. That’s responsibility of another agency within Homeland Security, that’s ICE. Locating & removing people illegally in this country.”
CALL FROM OKLAHOMA: The US & Mexico – Mexico’s policy – to give them material to sneak into the US…
BONNER: “That was troubling about the Mexico so-called guide passed out to illegals. But we have received significant cooperation from Mexico. Interior repatriation – people BP apprehended were flown back to interior of Mexico to where they lived. That took some pressure off the border. Repatriated to the interior of Mexico. … 75% of all apprehensions are from southern Mexico – Got cooperation from Mexico last year and are hopeful for this year.
“BP apprehended 700 people from special interest countries -- aliens from Pakistan, Iraq,…”
CALL FROM NEW JERSEY: National security problem -- going about it the wrong way. People coming here for jobs. Unless we go after employers who employ these people, we will never get control of this problem. Need ID system for all Americans. Small % of people being flown into the interior. Sent back 1.1 million, -- 2 million got successfully across.
BONNER: “I take issue with your statistics. don’t agree that 2 million illegally succeeded in getting thru BP. Crude estimate. Arizona is weakest part of our border – BP doing a far better job. You are right about the interior repatriation, it was a relatively small % of overall number of apprehensions – we ought to try to increase, but that takes cooperation of gov’t of Mexico. … Large # of people illegally crossing, are coming here for jobs. Some are coming here to commit criminal acts. Potential of terrorist operatives. ..We need to pass Pres temp worker permit program & couple that with strong employer sanctions & stronger efforts toward controlling our border. Part is making sure there is meaningful employer sanctions to be enforced.”
CALL FROM WASHINGTON, DC: Your quote about bailing a ship while there’s still a hole in it. …You ask public to help you – as far as immigration, you don’t want public help. This is dangerous. You tell us you are doing a great job, you are not. Why is no one held accountable?
BONNER: “We welcome citizen input. Ranchers & citizens in Arizona, are eyes & ears for BP and they do give us info about criminal activity that we act on. The problem of illegal immigration didn’t just happen. It is now a nat’l security problem and the Pres & Congress took important step, for first time in our country’s history, have one agency focused on our border. we’ve never had that before. Just started 2 years ago. We won’t solve problem overnight. But we are determined to gain control of the borders of our country. Pres has added nearly 1,500 BP agents to the BP. There is funding for technology. A diff agency is involved in interior enforcement – ICE is doing incredible job in prioritizing … people as potential terrorists & going after them. Do you know how difficult it is to find people in the US once they are in? It’s difficult. We have to gain control of our borders & prevent illegal entry in the first place.
“…we’re adding approx 534 new BP agents to Tucson sector & Yuma sector. Will bring up to 3,000 BP agents in AZ. Right now, approx 2200 & 2400 BP that patrol. We need more technology – we do have some camera systems & lighting in Nogales – some cameras in Naco-Douglas corridor – have increased air surveillence, west desert corridor. In Pres budget for 2006, addn’l funding for BP for adding technology. …will survey every mile of our border with Mexico & Canada to determine what technology is needed. Who is crossing, one or more, where they cross & be able to respond. There are parts of our border where we do not have visibility. All they have is BP out in a Bronco.”
CALL FROM OREGON: I am Mexican – you need to understand how difficult it is to come here illegal – they come because they are not allowed to come here legally. ..the work they do makes the economy grow. we never give credit to the workers.
BONNER: “We want people to come legally – not illegally. We are entitled to control our borders – we need to fix our system. Need Pres temp worker permit program to let people enter legally to take jobs here. Nat’l security reason – greater control of our borders.…If temp workers program – would need ID system – If they got a card in Mexico, then an employer in US could verify in the US that this is the person that was issued the card. …  It’s a different issue regarding national ID cards – the better direction is to have the states which issue driver’s licenses, to adopt stds that are consistent with DHS stds, it’s a better way to go. With state driver’s licenses issued to people that we know the identity to whom they are issued.”
CALL FROM CALIFORNIA: Nat’l ID cards – was a blue ribbon committee yrs ago …problem is political will. You said, “do you know how difficult it is to control illegal aliens that ICE takes care of?” If you have political will, we can take care of this. ..a Rep Hutchinson meeting all about dustup with BP around Riverside picking up people off the street. That Oregon woman, I sympathize with her – no citizen of US would object to having legal immigrants in this country to work.
BONNER: “There are difficulties in US finding people & removing them – but political will is there. Look at BP strategy. Part of US Custom & Border protection, now has nat’l strategy – a central command, never had before – do have a plan, are putting together technology with BP agents and mobility. Better control: increasing rate of apprehension. Make it more difficult to cross that border illegally, the number of people trying to do it will go down. |
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Can't contribute to this discussion at all, but thought some of you might be interested in how one ultrapatriotic American is describing the issue on the following website:
http://www.ianpaisley.org/guest_view.asp?direction=next&starting=3
He gives his email and website URL so is obviously happy to debate his unusual quasi-theological interpretation of the issue:
| Quote: | Date: 4/18/2005 7:46:33 AM
E-Mail: ControlBob@aol.com
Name: Bob Orris
Home Page: http://www.studytoanswer.net
City: Northern
State: OH
Country: USA
Comment: GEORGE W. BUSH – ROME'S LACKEY
US Catholic bishops continue to oppose ANY efforts on the part of Americans to protect their borders. The latest example was seen in an April 15 'Catholic News Service' article titled, "Minuteman Patrol Called 'Affront' to Nation's History of Hospitality."
Helping Rome is President George W. Bush, who is criminally ignoring this Catholic invasion of the USA – an invasion that is estimated will be 3 million persons in 2005. Since Bush actively hinders the US border patrol from doing its job, several hundred individual Americans, calling themselves "Minutemen," have banded together to watch sections of the US-Mexico border. Their only role is to call police authorities when illegal aliens are seen.
As always, the Catholic Church does NOT like it when Americans try to defend themselves! The article called the Minuteman Project, "An affront to internationally protected rights and to our nation's history of hospitality."
It seems the US Catholic Church is more concerned about "internationally protected rights" than sovereign 'American' rights! Also, George Bush is on record as calling the Minutemen "vigilantes." Rome must be very pleased!
Not only is George Bush a criminal in this – but also the Catholic Church with its network of safe houses and legal teams protecting illegal aliens. The Federal Immigration and Nationality Act, Section 8 says:
"Any person who encourages or induces an alien to reside knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such resident is in violation of law, shall be punished as provided...A person (including a group of persons, business organization or local government) commits a federal felony when he or she assists an alien, he or she should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S."
George Bush, Rome's puppet in all this, LIED to the American people when he swore to "Preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States." The US Constitution, Article IV, Section IV states:
"The U.S. shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government and shall protect each of them against INVASION (emphasis mine) and against domestic violence."
Instead, George Bush has whored himself out to the Catholic Church.
With the papal conclave coming up this week, many stories have been reported about what the Cardinals will be looking for in a new pope. One thing the Cardinals may consider is: Who as pope will best intimidate and manipulate the President of the United States?
Pray that God stops this Catholic invasion of the USA. Please also pray that our Lord protect the USA from – the Roman Catholic Church – and – George W. Bush. |
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