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dcornutt · PO3 Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 267 Location: Brooklyn, NY

That's up to you.

Hillary/Obama NOT right to life people. NOT fiscal conservatives. Nor are they determined to even stay in the WOT (both of them announced that they would withdraw from the battlefiled unconditionally).

Obama has "the" most liberal voting record in the senate. Hillary isn't far behind. McCain "is" a conservative. He's just not your particular brand. He even now has the endorsement (despite differences) from the most conservative bloc of the RNC.

What's next? Having McCain as president is worse than Taliban?

baldeagle · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject:

I gotta tellya, folks, for 6/7 years now, we've been witnessing the results of "BDS" (Bush derangement syndrome), a term originally coined by Michelle Malkin, I believe.
Symptoms are complete and unreasonable seething hatred, a ready willingness to believe the most exagerated tale of outrageous doings, etc, etc, and an unhealthy fixation on anything connected.
We have all seen the results of this in the irrational and unpatriotic actions of some the Democrats in congress as well as the writings and pronouncements of the pundits in the more liberal establisments of the MSM.
I am beginning to see some of the same symptoms now from the right side of the political spectrum as regards John McCain. Guess we can call it "McCain derangement syndrome" or MDS.
Now John McCain was not my man in the primaries. He has never been a Senator I have agreed with much on his stances on things, in fact, he has at times infuriated me as, apparently he has done to so many of you.
I hope that we conservatives are more rational than the lefty looneys and able to look at the reality of things prior to the General election in November, because if we aren't.......if we sit it out, or boycott it, or cast protest votes for Nader or Clinton/Obama, and aid and abet the election of a whichever of those is their nominee for the next four years I believe we are in for a term which will make the previous Clinton years, or even the Carter years, seem like a vacation in Shangri La by comparison.
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Theresa Alwood · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:45 pm Post subject:

I think it is great that we can disagree and argue our points. I understand the anger, disappointment and frustration of McCain as the probable nomination. I am extremly angry over the fact that I am expected to set aside my differences with McCain and still vote for him and the party...when I see McCain I just get mad as heck! I just plain do not like him....not at all. I am tired of having to just accept these downright corrupt politicans and vote so the lesser of the two evils do not get in the white house and I keep wondering why I am expected to fall into party lines when it seems as if the GOP does very little to want us to support them other than when it is time to vote.

All I wanted was a candidate to come out fighting and not give up. How can just a few states decided who is the candidate? I see that Mike Huckabee is fighting harder than the others but there is something about Mike Huckabee that just does not feel right. I would rather have Huckabee be the nomination over McCain because I could easily pull the lever over any democrat...except McCain.

Will I vote for McCain in the end? Probably...but it will be hard....especially because I truly dislike the man.

I am deeply disappointed in the GOP. I might be changing my party affilation over to Independent because I just do not see where the GOP is my party anymore.

Me#1You#10 · Site Admin Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 6503

Theresa, I've been unable to "warm-up" to Huckabee but would be hard-pressed to provide specifics. However, Robin at "ChickenHawk Express" was kind enough to post some Huckabee quotes purportedly supplied by Limbaugh which helped me. Perhaps they can help you as well...

baldeagle · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:11 am Post subject:

Theresa Alwood · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:06 am Post subject:

Well I knew there was something about him. I just am really disappointed in our lack of coming up with a good candidate...even a decent one.

I guess what upsets me the most is McCain and Huckabee were the two I least liked....and here we are. Yet I am suppose to get behind the person and know everyone else seems to be moving behind McCain. I just plain do not like the man. I really wanted to cry when Romney dropped out...it was like our last chance.

Now they are predicting that Obama will beat Hillary...what a crazy world we live in. How this whole race turns out will be a surprise to all the critics who had McCain over before he started along with Obama.

I really think the only chance we have is for Hillary to win the nomination. But November is still a long way off. Lots can happen between then and now. All we can do know is wait and see.

Me#1You#10 · Site Admin Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 6503

Theresa, perhaps there'll be some solace to be had in the vice presidential candidate. I can't imagine that McCain wouldn't use the opportunity to select someone whose conservative credentials are nearly impeccable. The question is, would someone with that type of qualification be willing to serve under McCain.

It should be interesting.

baldeagle · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:54 am Post subject:

I would feel a lot better about a Clinton or Obama victory in November if we still had Newt and the class of 94 in the house and a majority in the senate so as to put a little brakes on their ambitious socialist agenda.
Unfortunately, it is all too easy to imagine Reid and Pelosi drooling at the mouth awaiting the inaugeration of someone who will not stymie their far left plans driven by Moveon, et al.
Its scarey.
Iraq pull-out
Stacking the Supreme Court with more like Ginsberg and Kennedy and Souter.
The death of Bush's tax cuts.........and very possible more tax increases.
Signing on to Kyoto
Caving in to Gore and his GW fraud
and more
At the cost of repeating myself...........its scarey.
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"In a word, I want an American character, that the powers of Europe may be convinced we act for ourselves and not for others; this, in my judgment, is the only way to be respected abroad and happy at home." --George Washington

dcornutt · PO3 Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 267 Location: Brooklyn, NY

They have both promised to withdraw troops unconditionally from Iraq as soon as they are in office. They say the first order of business will be to task the various depts and miltary to draw up plans to begin an immediate withdrawal. For Obama, it's not just an Iraq pullout, but strategic withdrawal of our bases all over the world. That includes Afghanistan. Obama wants to bring "all" the troops back home where they belong and are not causing trouble. Both of them want to subject US and our military to International Courts and opinion. They want the international community to have more say in what our policy is (since our policies affect them in so many ways). Hillary's military withdrawal is about "change" to acknowledge and rectify Bush's mistake of starting a war in Iraq.

They both will bring socialized medicine. In Hillary's case, she plans on doing this by making it manditory. Parents will be fined if their children are not covered, etc., Obama says everyone will have the same healthcare that he does right now..and that it will happen by the end of his first term. And the reason and way it will happen is beause of hope. Not just the word hope...but hope by doing...because it's change we can believe in.

Obama's politics is left of Kennedys. He's got one of, if not the most, liberal voting historys/records in the senate.

Here's an Obama Campaign office for you:

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/11/video-campaign-office-decor-of-the-day/

Me#1You#10 · Site Admin Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 6503

shawa · CNO Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 2004

I am really struggling to bring myself to support McCain. But he is SO WRONG-HEADED on issues which gravely affect our sovereignty and our economy.
The only thing I can put in the plus column is he is pro-life and he supports the war and our troops. (American Honor).
But joining the ICC could put our soldiers before an international court on trumped up charges of war crimes.
He supports our signing on to L.O.S.T. (overseen by the corrupt UN who would collect taxes, transport fees and fines on international cargo shipping) - another burden on our economy and sovereignty.
And then there is McCain-Lieberman bill on AGW, which would greatly increase government taxes on gasoline and other energy, burdening our economy even more.

McCain on:
International Criminal Court

Law Of The Sea Treaty

McCain Leiberman Global Warming
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