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the0point · Lt.Jg. Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 140

The authorities need to get involved now. The memos constitute a potential wire fraud, forging military documents, impersonating another person, and much much worse.

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ccr · Commander Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 325

Let's keep the focus here....

Whoever faxed these from Kinkos is simply a dime bag dealer. What good does it do to put him in jail? I want to bring down the kingpin.

The key is to tie the faxer to the Kerry campaign.
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SangRun Hunter · PO1 Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 462 Location: Zinzinnati

Let's make sure we send messages to our reps ASAP and the DOJ as well as any other pertinent law agencies that might need to get involved.

We need to do this for more than Repub or Demo, it's about the country.
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Nomorelies · Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:16 am Post subject:

There is a federal law against impersonating a federal officer.
Here tis:
18USC912

CITE
18 USC Sec. 912 01/03/95

EXPCITE
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 43 - FALSE PERSONATION

HEAD
Sec. 912. Officer or employee of the United States

STATUTE
Whoever falsely assumes or pretends to be an officer or employee acting under the authority of the United States or any department, agency or officer thereof, and acts as such, or in such pretended character demands or obtains any money, paper, document, or thing of value, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
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the0point · Lt.Jg. Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 140

ccr, I agree....I wonder if anyone can put together a linking tree like the NYTimes did for the Swift Boat Veterans, only this time showing Burkett and maybe the Texas Democrats.

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docford · Lt.Jg. Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 149

May I offer a suggestion.

If we had a concerned resident of the Texas panhandle (Northern District of Texas) or NYC contact the local FBI regarding a possible violation of the Wire Fraud statute, an investigation file would be officially opened. I picked these two places because they are the origin and target of the fax, and it would be easier to assert jurisdiction.

Whoever did so would have to keep the rhetoric to the minimum so the agent would take him or her seriously. Lay out the the bare facts (including what we suspect is the address of the Kinkos that Barnes used), the code section, and nothing more.

One common misperception is that the fraud has to have a monetary motive. The statute and case law do not require this.
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GenrXr · Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:29 am Post subject:

Guys RICO is for criminal organizations which act conspiratorially to commit crimes. How do you think the government is able to put drug dealers and of late the Enron execs in jail? Not because they are all drug dealers, but rather the RICO laws which were passed to put anyone in jail the government wants to. You can put anyone in jail if the government wants to under RICO. There is no presumed innocence until found guilty under RICO. You are guilty until you can prove your innocence. And this law statuet although meant for drug dealers is used against anyone and everyone involved in something the government doesn't like. So I say lets kill 2 birds with 1 stone. The RICO laws and CBS. Laughing

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Paul Woll · Lt.Jg. Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 134 Location: California

Can we get access to their computers to see if we can find the documents on the hard drives? I would think there should be an investigation to see if they were created on those computers.

docford · Lt.Jg. Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 149

GenXr is correct. Forget RICO - there is no evidence of a criminal enterprise. The issue is fraud, and more specifically wire fraud. That is what brings the matter under federal jurisdiction.
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the0point · Lt.Jg. Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 140

I think Kerry Spot just hammered the last nail in the coffin. Must read!

http://www.nationalreview.com/kerry/kerry200409152325.asp

Skypilot · Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:36 am Post subject:

The Bloggers have picked this story up as well. They are smelling blood. The Bloggers could be a great asset once again in solving this hoax. Keep an eye out on the blog sites an add to their discussions if possible. They would love to bring Rather down after the disparaging comments he made about them.
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GenrXr · Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:37 am Post subject: