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Stevie · Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:19 am Post subject:

is Steve Forbes related to Kerry? He was just on Fox money show...cavuto.... he is NOT for Kerry!!!

probably thinks Kerry is embarrassment to the family..... he is..... Embarassed

was that in the 1st debate that Kerry said that???? Confused

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msindependent · Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:20 am Post subject:

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avant · Ensign Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 59

hiyall · Seaman Apprentice Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 81

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20041024-110609-9428r.htm

Could this be the story?

Why would anyone who has followed Senator Kerry be surprised that he lied about this? After all, he has met with many unnamed foreign leaders, who are supporting his candidacy but have yet to go public. No one has yet found these supposed leaders, so all we are to do is take Senator Kerry's word for it.

After Mr. Koppel's "News Story", its clear that the village leaders in Vietnam support Senator Kerry. Did Mr. Koppel's news team find those leaders?

Seriously, I am not sure that these lies are going to make many inroads into the Kerry voter base. There has been enough evidence to discredit Senator Kerry such that it is difficult for me to believe anything this candidate says and yet he is polling well over 40% percent. This boggles my mind. Currently, it seems that a good public relations team, good speechwriters and delivery, support of a friendly press, no respect for any truth and the realization of the left that they have a piece of clay as a candidate that can be molded in their own image trumps principle, honesty, character and integrity.

Have to speed off to work so I only mention Mr. Sowell's related commentary in this post.

Thomas Sowell offers his comments related to this at:

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20041023.shtml

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20041022.shtml

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20041021.shtml

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20041020.shtml

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20041007.shtml

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20041012.shtml

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20040923.shtml

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20040526.shtml

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20031218.shtml
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jataylor11 · Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:20 pm Post subject:

IMHO it may take days for this to develop any legs. KERRY LIED -- that isn't news. Most of us on this site (those that aren't trolls and barking moonbats) already know that Kerry lies with more regularity than sunrises and sunsets --- after all some days are cloudy.

With the exception of Fox and talk radio, I doubt others will pick up this story.

Actually I am looking forward to a Kerry Presidency Wink

I'll suddenly be thinner (if the paralized will walk --- certainly the fat will disappear from my body. I'll have government health insurance as good as what Kerry has in the Senate. I would like some botox for the wrinkles appearing on my forhead. --- Oh wait those are purely selfish reasons versus voting for the common good.

Nothing scares me more than thinking this fake could even run for President and be taken seriously -- I think Pat Paulson was a better candidate, better qualified to be President.

hanna · Rear Admiral Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 701

I think we need to compile a list of proven lies by Kerry. Not the complicated stuff, just the things tht can be charged and proven in a few sentences. I have several....will post here, if anymore of you have any, add them to this thread and at the end of the day I will compile them all and turn it in to various news organizations, etc.

Here is what I have:

Michael Flynn, a defense attorney who worked extensively in Middlesex County in this period, said. To be sure, Kerry’s industry became the stuff of later campaign exaggerations: he has boasted that he wiped out an inventory of eleven thousand cases, but the Boston Globe has reported that during his tenure the entire superior-court caseload, including backlog, never exceeded seven thousand two hundred and sixty-five cases.

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040510fa_fact1

In June Of 1996 Campaign, Kerry Falsely Claimed He Had Introduced Legislation On Children’s Health Coverage. ‘“I introduced yesterday in the United States Senate a bill to give 10 million kids in the United States of America health care with a voluntary subsidy program.’ It was stirring campaign rhetoric, with just one problem: It wasn’t true. Kerry had not introduced a bill …” (Michael Grunwald, “Kerry Files Health Bill After 3-Month Delay,” The Boston Globe, 10/2/96)

http://www.gop.com/News/Read.aspx?id=4153

"I didn't have any real feel for what the heck was going on [in the war]," Kerry has recalled. His ship returned to its Long Beach, Calif., port on June 6, 1968, the day that Robert F. Kennedy died from a gunshot wound he received on the previous night at a Los Angeles hotel. The antiwar protests were growing. But within five months Kerry was heading back to Vietnam, seeking to fulfill his officer commitment despite his growing misgivings about the war.
Robert Kennedy was actually assassinated April 3, 1968

http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/journal_day2.shtml

In October 2003, Kerry Claimed Bush Administration Rebuffed French-Russian Offer To Prevent War. “I talked to [UN Secretary-General] Kofi Annan the Sunday before the president decided to go to war. And I knew at that moment in time that the Russians and the French were prepared to, in fact, make a further offer.” (MSNBC’s “Hardball,” 10/20/03)

October 21, 2003: “‘I have it on the highest authority’ that the French and Russians were prepared to make an offer at the UN, but were rebuffed by American officials intent on going to war, Kerry said. ‘I’m going to talk about it more publicly at a later time.’ [Kerry] would not disclose details of the position the countries, which opposed the US-led military offensive, were prepared to take or identify the source of the information.” (Patrick Healy, “Kerry Won’t Elaborate On Missed Deal,” The Boston Globe, 10/22/03)

April 2, 2003: Claims He Spoke To Number Of Foreign Leaders But Doesn’t Name Names. “In remarks in the basement of the Peterborough Public Library Kerry … said ‘I talked to leaders of a number of countries … that told me they lost all confidence in the administration.’” (James Pindell, “Kerry: $8 Million In The Bank,” PoliticsNH.com Website, www.politicsnh.com, Accessed 4/3/03)

But France And Russia Don’t Recall Making Such An Offer. “The French and Russian ambassadors to the UN, in separate interviews Thursday, said they knew nothing about any private offers made by their governments to the US on the eve of the war. The envoys told the Globe that the only concession made was a public proposal to extend weapons inspections in Iraq by four months before military action could begin. … Kerry questioned whether the two ambassadors were fully apprised of the proposals that top officials in Paris and Moscow were prepared to discuss, however.”

(Patrick Healy, “Kerry Presses Assault On Bush,” The Boston Globe, 10/25/03)

Thats what I have...

Fort Campbell · Vice Admiral Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 896

At this point I honestly don't think that one more Kerry lie will make a difference. I don't think there are nearly as many undecideds as the media would like us to believe. We must insure that all Bush supporters get to the polls and vote. Far too many of them did not in 2000.

truthserum · Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:13 pm Post subject:

The Joel Mobray story in the Washington Times is not going to make a difference. It's just Kerry lying again and the MSM doesn't care about any of his lies. This story is a disappointment if you ask me.
It's just a week before election and the MSM is not going to start at this late date suddenly debunking all of Kerry's lies. The only thing now is for everyone to get out and vote next Tuesday.
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hanna · Rear Admiral Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 701

I detect an air of defeatism here. I'll tell you something. I have had my dukes up in this fight since day one and I'll be DAMNED if I am going to put them down at the last hour and simply focus on getting people to the polls when I cannot haul them to the polls today anyway. TODAY, this IS what I CAN do and I am going to do that and anything else I can think of to do that may help. There is likely no "silver bullet". I have not found that philosophy to hold water in life, nor is it likely to hold water in this election, but either way, doing this is NOT going to do any harm, so why poo poo it? If you don't want to participate....great, don't, but allow those of us that do to persue this if we choose to.....so long as there is no harm.

My life experience tells me that if you want to get from point A to point B, the only wa to achieve your goal is to get down on your belly and CRAWL. Thats what I am doing...I am digging in and crawling....through the mud, through the briars......but if in the end, the goal is achieved, it will be worth it all....if not, then I will know that I did everything I could possibly do....that I left nothing undone that I should have done. After the election, I will not be one saying "Oh darn, I should have.....".

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truthserum · Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:40 pm Post subject: