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Now on Drudge - Kerry Cheated??? (debates)
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kimberly
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rurik wrote:
A friend plays with photoshop. Not authentic, but real---



Thanks Rurik, I think I saw that posted somewhere. The center picture looks like the one that Fox news used to prove it was a pen and not a 'cheat' sheet. Problem is, we've already found a fox tape that shows Kerry pulling that pen out of his pocket, not in the beginning, but sometime later after the debate already started. He reached into his pocket two (2) times. (Everyone kept focusing on only the beginning of the debate and examining footage from the internet)

We didn't move forward with it because we couldn't find anyone else with a copy of Fox's version of the debate to be a second backup. The media has made such fun of the whole thing, we needed very strong support to bring it to their attention. If you have a copy or know of any one who does, please let me know!


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Playing with it how?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:58 pm    Post subject: Pen to Paper Reply with quote

Hi Hanna,

He has shown how easy it is to change the pen to a paper. The photo could have been easily doctored.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, or paper to pen. What bugs me about it, is the way he is holding it. Who pulls a pen out of his inside jacket pocket and holds it like that at any point? Trying to hide paper, yes.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hanna wrote:
Playing with it how?


That's a humongous, ccigar-sized doobie in his hand Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, Kimberly,

We finally got back in town. I watched the tape from 34 min to almost 50 min. into the debate. At one point Kerry reaches into his pants pocket for a bit, but, the hand is empty going in and empty coming out. The whole time he has a white pen. I'll try to see if maybe my wife can watch more tomorrow -- I have to work most of the day. (Promise to a customer.)
More, if I find out anything more, or, I can send you the tape as long as I get a good copy back.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:14 am    Post subject: Thanks Paul Reply with quote

It seems that this is becoming more and more a dead issue (though now almost 20,500 people have viewed the thread), but if we eventually find another person who has the same information as az, it would be awesome! Even if it's only us who know the truth and can prove it.

I appreciate you and your wife taking the time to review the tape. I have a message into az to see if he can tell me exactly what time he saw this happen. It will make it so much easier for others to find it!


Thanks for all your help!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kimberly,

No chance today... Will ask my wife again tomorrow. Please let us know if you get a specific time to look for.
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