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dusty
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks ord33. Found what I'd been looking for. I thought I heard this but wasn't sure til I read the transcript.

Quote:
And the president is moving to the creation of our own bunker- busting nuclear weapon. It's very hard to get other countries to give up their weapons when you're busy developing a new one.


Does this mean that Kerry is going to stop us from developing new weapons systems? That's what it means to me. This is a Kerry stopper but I haven't seen any news folks mention it yet.
This is another very scary startment from Mr. SKerry.

Dusty

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dmackto
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmackto wrote:
Running Total:
Me#1You#10 is in for $100
Nutso is in for $25
Dmackto is in for $25
Chance is in for $10
hleone is in for $50
minnie presley is in for $20
neverforget is in for $50
Ord is in for $25
ashter is in for $50
Beatrice1000 is in for $100
ondryland is in for $25
ILOVETHEUSA is in for $25
Tacan70UDN is in for $50
Rdtf is in for $25
Kmudd is in for $10
wirebiter is in for $25
Cheyenne is in for $50
my mom is in for $10
dmackto is in for $25
Endaar is in for $50
Steve Z is in for $50
ArmyMedicsMom is in for $25
Proud of my VietVet Dad! $250
Daniel J. Hutchison is in for $50
neverforget is in for $50 more
1AD is in for $50
my roommate is in for $10
LeeWaters is in for $50
Ord33 is in for $25
reconflyer is in for $25
2ndamendsis and Gary are in for $50
ProudDaughterofVet is in for $25
Jim NYC is in for $50
wwIIvetsdaughter is in for $25
I am in for $7 more "plan" dollars
Rdtf is in for another $50 because he loves Dubya
I'm in for another $3 because the system doesnt take 7's
pneal is in for $35 (i almost missed that one)
MissouriVeteransDaughter is in for $10
1AD is in for another $10 and gives up on his wife not finding out
stevie is in for $10 for bad Kerry hair
wednesdaychild is in for $10
Beatrice is in for $25 for ALL the fist/thumb point-jabs
Beatrice is in for $25 for ALL the times he stuck his tongue out
hleone is in for an additional $50 in celebration
ashter is in for $10 more
baldeagl is in for $100 woot
pegm is in for $25
Rurik is in for $20
rikkoshay is in for $10
ArmybratNavywife is in for $20


Total $1930

Only $70 more to $2,000.00!
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concernedgranny
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Count me in for $10.00. Would love for it to be $1000.00 but I'm not working and I'm not complaining. Please help us get Ohio back!!
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dusty
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry I can't get into the donate pool on this one.
I'm so broke right now that if they were selling brand new 4 wheel drive Chevrolet pickups for a dollar apiece, all I could do would be to run up and down the street yelling....."Ain't that cheap".
But I think I got a little check coming in next week and I'll catch up then.
Thanks for ya'll all being here though.

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dmackto
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmackto wrote:
Running Total:
Me#1You#10 is in for $100
Nutso is in for $25
Dmackto is in for $25
Chance is in for $10
hleone is in for $50
minnie presley is in for $20
neverforget is in for $50
Ord is in for $25
ashter is in for $50
Beatrice1000 is in for $100
ondryland is in for $25
ILOVETHEUSA is in for $25
Tacan70UDN is in for $50
Rdtf is in for $25
Kmudd is in for $10
wirebiter is in for $25
Cheyenne is in for $50
my mom is in for $10
dmackto is in for $25
Endaar is in for $50
Steve Z is in for $50
ArmyMedicsMom is in for $25
Proud of my VietVet Dad! $250
Daniel J. Hutchison is in for $50
neverforget is in for $50 more
1AD is in for $50
my roommate is in for $10
LeeWaters is in for $50
Ord33 is in for $25
reconflyer is in for $25
2ndamendsis and Gary are in for $50
ProudDaughterofVet is in for $25
Jim NYC is in for $50
wwIIvetsdaughter is in for $25
I am in for $7 more "plan" dollars
Rdtf is in for another $50 because he loves Dubya
I'm in for another $3 because the system doesnt take 7's
pneal is in for $35 (i almost missed that one)
MissouriVeteransDaughter is in for $10
1AD is in for another $10 and gives up on his wife not finding out
stevie is in for $10 for bad Kerry hair
wednesdaychild is in for $10
Beatrice is in for $25 for ALL the fist/thumb point-jabs
Beatrice is in for $25 for ALL the times he stuck his tongue out
hleone is in for an additional $50 in celebration
ashter is in for $10 more
baldeagl is in for $100 woot
pegm is in for $25
Rurik is in for $20
rikkoshay is in for $10
ArmybratNavywife is in for $20
concernedgranny is in for $10

Total $1940

Only $60 more to $2,000.00!
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vickie
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 8:00 pm    Post subject: To unilaterally stop making weapons while negotiating is jus Reply with quote

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And the president is moving to the creation of our own bunker- busting nuclear weapon. It's very hard to get other countries to give up their weapons when you're busy developing a new one.


Wasn't that how Reagan got Gorby to give up his. To unilaterally stop making weapons while negotiating is just so damn wrong.

In Kerryland "we must set a good example so the other boys and girls leading the other counties in the the world will respect and admire us. Remember they do as we do - not as we say."

No - We develop nuclear tipped bunker busting bombs so that little creep in N. Korea will not be sleeping so well at night. And Khameini may think twice about proceeding with making a nuke in some hole in Iran.

I bet a couple of these dropped on Tora Bora would have left it looking like Mount St. Helens.

We do not develop these weapons because we want to use them -- we develop them so we will never have to.
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wally626
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well here's $60 to get it to $2000. but its in honor of Cheney for showing George the way Tuesday.

Edit: make that $100, no $60 on the donation site.
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dmackto
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wally626 wrote:
Well here's $60 to get it to $2000. but its in honor of Cheney for showing George the way Tuesday.

Edit: make that $100, no $60 on the donation site.


Wonderful! Thank you and Thank everyone who participated! Great job one and all.

Running Total:
Me#1You#10 is in for $100
Nutso is in for $25
Dmackto is in for $25
Chance is in for $10
hleone is in for $50
minnie presley is in for $20
neverforget is in for $50
Ord is in for $25
ashter is in for $50
Beatrice1000 is in for $100
ondryland is in for $25
ILOVETHEUSA is in for $25
Tacan70UDN is in for $50
Rdtf is in for $25
Kmudd is in for $10
wirebiter is in for $25
Cheyenne is in for $50
my mom is in for $10
dmackto is in for $25
Endaar is in for $50
Steve Z is in for $50
ArmyMedicsMom is in for $25
Proud of my VietVet Dad! $250
Daniel J. Hutchison is in for $50
neverforget is in for $50 more
1AD is in for $50
my roommate is in for $10
LeeWaters is in for $50
Ord33 is in for $25
reconflyer is in for $25
2ndamendsis and Gary are in for $50
ProudDaughterofVet is in for $25
Jim NYC is in for $50
wwIIvetsdaughter is in for $25
I am in for $7 more "plan" dollars
Rdtf is in for another $50 because he loves Dubya
I'm in for another $3 because the system doesnt take 7's
pneal is in for $35 (i almost missed that one)
MissouriVeteransDaughter is in for $10
1AD is in for another $10 and gives up on his wife not finding out
stevie is in for $10 for bad Kerry hair
wednesdaychild is in for $10
Beatrice is in for $25 for ALL the fist/thumb point-jabs
Beatrice is in for $25 for ALL the times he stuck his tongue out
hleone is in for an additional $50 in celebration
ashter is in for $10 more
baldeagl is in for $100 woot
pegm is in for $25
Rurik is in for $20
rikkoshay is in for $10
ArmybratNavywife is in for $20
concernedgranny is in for $10
wally626 puts us over the top with $100!

Total $2040!!
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CTW
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok my pledge was for President Bush to get to the "liar" issue. And for there to be a defining shut your mouth moment. I think my gutter term was "b****slap" , oh my! Who says it was when he called Kerry's comments "absurd"? Or was it when he said "That's just not credible?"

"What say you" everybody? CTW

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dusty wrote:
Thanks ord33. Found what I'd been looking for. I thought I heard this but wasn't sure til I read the transcript.

Quote:
And the president is moving to the creation of our own bunker- busting nuclear weapon. It's very hard to get other countries to give up their weapons when you're busy developing a new one.


Does this mean that Kerry is going to stop us from developing new weapons systems? That's what it means to me. This is a Kerry stopper but I haven't seen any news folks mention it yet.
This is another very scary startment from Mr. SKerry.

Dusty

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I'm sure he said flat out at the 1st debate that he'd put a stop to the bunker busting weapon !!!
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danokeefe
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:07 pm    Post subject: debate Reply with quote

Relieved to read everyone's posts today. I throught the President crushed Kerry last night and was excited to hear the post-debate polls. Turning on the radio this morning I was stunned to hear two polls called Kerry the winner. Literally my jaw dropped.

Are people brain dead? Kerry is a craven policitician with no core principle aside from doing and saying whatever it takes to win the presidency. I just find it stunning that he can look the camera and the American people in the eye and say "I have been consistent on Iraq." Does he think we are two years old? Amazing! Shocked
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rurik wrote:
kmudd wrote:
Karl Rove made a great point ,if Kerry had his way Saddam would not only still be in power but he would still be in Kuwait and threathing Saudi Arabia .


Naaww. Saddam wouldn't be threatening Saudi Arabia any more. By now he'd be threatening Yemen at the least, and maybe the borders of Tanzania.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those who were discussing the subject of factcheck.org's article about the effect of the Kerry tax on small businesses, here is a Freudian slip from the article!

Buy (sic) this estimate, the figure used in the Bush ad is nearly double the real number.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:18 pm    Post subject: Echo Reply with quote

Anker-Klanker wrote:
I have not seen it mentioned yet. I thought that one of Bush's better and most effective come-backs last night was when he said, in effect:

Quote:
"Look, the war on terror is not all about Usama bin Ladin. It's a global war..."

That effectively silenced Kerry for the rest of the debate on this bunk about Iraq distracting us from Kerry's view on the war on terror. Kerry's line and the lack of rebutal was getting dangerous.


This statement really stuck with me, too. Haven't we learned, by now, that there are MANY Osama Bin Laden's out there. The generals don't fight the fight, the grunts do! The hatred has already been instilled in these guys, they've been trained, and they will carry out the violence with, or without, Bin Laden's presence. We must, as the President said, spread freedom and justice throught that region. Free people, in any land, will not tolerate these thugs. Freedom will always be a better alternative to violence and ultimately freedom will defeat the hatred for America. Bush gets it! Cool GO "W"!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Echo Reply with quote

pneal wrote:
Anker-Klanker wrote:
I have not seen it mentioned yet. I thought that one of Bush's better and most effective come-backs last night was when he said, in effect:

Quote:
"Look, the war on terror is not all about Usama bin Ladin. It's a global war..."

That effectively silenced Kerry for the rest of the debate on this bunk about Iraq distracting us from Kerry's view on the war on terror. Kerry's line and the lack of rebutal was getting dangerous.


This statement really stuck with me, too. Haven't we learned, by now, that there are MANY Osama Bin Laden's out there. The generals don't fight the fight, the grunts do! The hatred has already been instilled in these guys, they've been trained, and they will carry out the violence with, or without, Bin Laden's presence. We must, as the President said, spread freedom and justice throught that region. Free people, in any land, will not tolerate these thugs. Freedom will always be a better alternative to violence and ultimately freedom will defeat the hatred for America. Bush gets it! Cool GO "W"!!!!


Kerry is one of those that blames America for everything. He thinks that other countries only want weapons because the USA has them. Just like many liberals want the USA to stop making land mines because all of these evil countries were using them. They would use them even if the USA had them or not. And ours now can have a timer set so after so many days they won't blow up. So our land mines were not the problem but they still blamed it the USA.
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