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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Word is Drudge is going to break it tonight!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't get http://www.redstate.org/ to load. They must be getting hammered!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could this be the reason the NYT's is running their repackaged ammunitions story tomorrow to take heat off this? I can't get Redstate either. Hope this is soon.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got the page to load. Here is what they have so far:

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More on the John Kerry Story By: krempasky · Section: Breaking News

I'm pleased to introduce Red State readers to our newest and most welcome contributor, Joel Mowbray. Joel is the author of the Washington Times piece we referred to on Saturday - which will run page 1, above-the-fold tomorrow.. Joel is a long-time columnist, investigative journalist, and author of Dangerous Diplomacy: How The State Department Threatens American Security . He's a dogged reporter -- see, for example, his epic series of confrontations with the State Department's Richard Boucher, one of which led to his being "detained" -- and he's the first person that Red State approached once it became clear that there might be a story here.
He'll be blogging here at Red State to cover developments in the story and respond to any critiques and comments raised. We're lucky to have him, and happy to be able to provide a place for him to cover the story in a way that doesn't depend on print deadlines or studio time.

Update [2004-10-24 18:19:47 by krempasky]: Mea culpa. I sent an email out a few minutes ago, and while I correctly identified the newspaper as the Washington Times in the subject line, I had a seizure and mixed it up with the WaPo in the body. So - for the record, we're talking about the Washington Times. Sorry for the confusion.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nomorelies wrote:
I think it has something to do with the fact that John Kerry claimed that he "secretly" met with members of the UN Security Council prior to the start of the war with Iraq. It will be proven that he never did even though it is on record that he made that claim several times.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sonofvet..it took me about 20 minutes to get in..HERE goes drudge...several ambassadors at the UN says that the candidate DID NOT TALK TO THE SECURITY COUNCIL>>NO MEETING TOOK PLACE..is this it??? Said this is it, Washington times...well, investigation reveals that KERRY DID NOT MEET WITH UN SECURITY COUNCIL...

well, not big, just typical Kerry..

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here it is. I posted this this morn.

http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14334

Drudge just said this is it, that he did not think it was all that big.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like Nomorelies won here. Drudge is saying it is a Washington Times story and that Kerry never met with the Security Council members he claimed to have met with.

Drudge doesn't really think it's going to be that big of a story, despite the internet hoopla. He said it will be about as big as Cheney saying he never met Edwards, and the MSM showed pictures of them together.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JUST ANOTHER LIE, ON TOP OF LIES, NOT MEETING WITH UN LEADERS. NOW WHICH WILL MSM SUCK UP THIS OR THE ANTI US BASHING STORY IN THE NYT
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get it, he met with them before he didn't meet with them...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

better story here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/^http://gogov.com/kerryoutsourcing1.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can't get into Redstate try http://wizbangblog.com/

It's not on the Drudge Report yet
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kerry's already been caught a few times with these kinds of mistatements...nobody seems to really care.

btw..his senate floor speech in authorizing the use of force in IRaq..is one place where he's said this:

"The President has challenged the United Nations, as he should, and as all of us in the Senate should, to enforce its own resolutions vis-a-vis Iraq. And his administration is now working aggressively with the Perm 5 members on the Security Council to reach a consensus. As he told the American people Monday night: "America wants the U.N. to be an effective organization that helps keep the peace. And that is why we are urging the Security Council to adopt a new resolution setting out tough, immediate requirements. Because of my concerns, and because of the need to understand, with clarity, what this resolution meant, I traveled to New York a week ago. I met with members of the Security Council and came away with a conviction that they will indeed move to enforce, that they understand the need to enforce, if Saddam Hussein does not fulfill his obligation to disarm."

And I believe they made it clear that if the United States operates through the U.N., and through the Security Council, they--all of them--will also bear responsibility for the aftermath of rebuilding Iraq and for the joint efforts to do what we need to do as a consequence of that enforcement. I talked to Secretary General Kofi Annan at the end of last week and again felt a reiteration of the seriousness with which the United Nations takes this and that they will respond.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kerry Says He Met With UN Security Council

In the same speech to a Unity Conference of minority journalists where John Kerry criticized President Bush for his immediate reaction to the 9-11 attacks, he again raised the assertion that he had met with foreign leaders prior to the vote on the war in Iraq on March 11. His latest comments shed some light on exactly who those foreign leaders were.

ATLANTA, GA (PRWEB) August 11, 2004 -- (GoodNewsAmerica.us)- In the same speech to a Unity Conference of minority journalists where John Kerry criticized President Bush for his immediate reaction to the 9-11 attacks, he again raised the assertion that he had met with foreign leaders prior to the vote on the war in Iraq on March 11. His latest comments shed some light on exactly who those foreign leaders were.

" I believe in my heart of hearts and in my gut that this president fails that test in Iraq. And I know this because I, personally, and others were deeply involved in the effort with other countries to bring them to the table. I met with the Security Council of the United Nations in the week preceding the vote in the Senate."

It still remains to be known with whom he met on the Security Council, unless it was the entire Security Council. If so, there is no official record of Kerry formally meeting with the full Security Council.

Further, if he did, nothing has been found documenting permission given by the State Department to do so.

The History
At a Hollywood, FL fundraising event on March 8, Senator John Kerry announced he had received word from unnamed foreign leaders who wanted to see him defeat President Bush in the November elections.

"I've met foreign leaders who can't go out and say this publicly, but boy they look at you and say, 'You've got to win this, you've got to beat this guy, we need a new policy,' things like that," he said.

Although Boston Globe reporter Patrick Healy revised the original quote from a pool report to "more leaders", Mr. Kerry did not back down from his assertions. Again on March 14 Mr. Kerry made his claim, but continued to resist naming names while under pressure after remarks by Secretary of State Colin Powell.

"I'm not going to betray a private conversation with anybody," he said. "I have heard from people, foreign leaders elsewhere in the world who don't appreciate the Bush administration and would love to see a change in the leadership of the United States."

The Washington Times conducted interviews with embassies of countries opposing the war in Iraq and concluded that there had been no meetings between Mr. Kerry and foreign heads of state since the beginning of 2003. After a review of Mr. Kerry's schedule, it was shown he had no opportunities for personal meetings with foreign heads of state, save one on September 24 when the New Zealand Foreign Minister was in Washington. Several foreign leaders including Germany's Schroeder and the Australian Foreign Minister deny any contact with Kerry.



http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/8/prweb148423.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess it is not that big of a story. Kerry lying is a non-starter in my opinion.

It may turn out that the Bush administration gets the brunt of tomorrow's news coverage with the front page of the NYT ammunition dump story.

That is unless there is a "game on" and something else is going to happen tomorrow...

Nonetheless, the dems over in the fever swamp are breathing a sigh of relief after the word came out.

Still, who knows?
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