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[Kimmymac]

Actually, now that I think about it while sober, I believe Mickey Moore is best left as he is. He becomes the perfect symbol of the failure of the leftist swine. What better symbol for the swine than a pig?

We leave them their titular head and pick the real players off one by one. Whether Kerry "wins" or loses this particular race, it is almost irrelevant to me. Either way my vow is that his career as a <cough> public servant is over.

But there are always openings for gigolos, I guess. Even over the hill ones like Kerry; so it's not as if I am depriving the man of his means of support.

Oh yeah, and PS. I am joking about the sober thing. Lately I feel so misunderestimatedstood.
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The last refuge of scoundrels is not patriotism; it is finicky liberal humanitarianism.--Martin Paretz

[Rdtf]

Alert -
ok - I can't find where it was posted last night, but that one of Bush flipping the bird just showed up in Drudge...

[Hondo]

Anyone know where the "one fingered victory salute" can be found in MPEG or WMV format? My machine is "QuickTime challenged" and I don't really want to download the new version.
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"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse."
-- John Stuart Mill

[Digger]

My old folks have a saying: " The spoken word is a garment for the soul. Only a fool clothes his beloved in lies and deciet."
Life is a matter of choices. Choose wisely and live well.
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Hey swifty, I'm with you, Just watch you don't get "Kerry'd away in the propwash

Sgt. Maj. Seamus D.D. MacNemi R.M.C. Ret.

[Fphamm]

[Digger]

We have the makings of something big here. Long term. The mission goes far beyond merely getting rid of the likes of sKerry. We can rebuild America into a nation that speaks to the world in the language of freedom and dignity, which offers to all the opportunity to realize legitimate aspirations and raises HUMANITY up to be the diadem God intended for it to be.
We can take our own places amongst the ranks of our fore fathers and the founders of this nation whos dream was realized in the Constitution.
The question is a matter of "Who" we are as a people. Both as individuals and as a collective. ( I know that some of you may cringe at the use of the term "collective", but that is what we are. We are a coorperate entity, a single entity made up of many individual parts all working together toward a common goal)
Our military experience and our understanding of the principals of organization can stand us in good stead for our efforts. We, at least, know how to organize and to carry out a mission. That alone gives us an advantage over our opponents. We shouldn't get too hung up in the dismal philosophy of "Individualism" so loved by the Libertarians. No Libertarian ever made a good soldier, they can't and will not follow orders without continually questioning the legitimacy of the authority which issues the orders. Thus they are a source of internal division within the ranks and an impediment to the completion of any mission.
First, I think it should be recognized and accepted that ours is a "Warrior Culture". We are all either military veretans or the relatives and dependants of military veterans. So to start we should reestablish the formal authority structure we have become familiar with in our relationships as soldiers. Let the rank we held while we were in service be a starting point and let promotions be given according to recognized and proven ability in the field. I am a seargent. I have never aspired to be anything other than the best man I could be in what ever situation I found myself in. I cannot claim any heroic honors, but I fulfilled my mission to the best of my ability what ever the objective. I would not expect anything more of any man.
As I stated in another forum. Leadership requires the ability to inspire the respect and trust of those who follow. Kerry does none of that. I could not, even as a subordinate, put my faith in such a man. Thus I could never trust or follow his directives to any degree of effectiveness.
President Bush may not have my experience. He may be young next to me. But I would gladly follow him into Hell if it became necessary because I have confidance that his mission is the same as my own. I cannot percieve the same thinbgs in John Kerry.
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Hey swifty, I'm with you, Just watch you don't get "Kerry'd away in the propwash

Sgt. Maj. Seamus D.D. MacNemi R.M.C. Ret.

[jwb7605]

[MJB]

[tony54]

I heard that Edwards didn't resign his Senate position.
(No confidence on winning)
But I'm not sure if he or Kerry resigned from the Senate.
Does that mean that when they loose the election they are still Senators?
Does anyone know for sure?

[shooter]

Yep, they are.

Just like Liberman in the last election.
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ADC USN Ret.

For those that fought for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know !!

Harley Davidson - If you have to ask, you don't understand !

Gun Control = Double tap - center mass

[Digger]

I would like to make a proposal for your consideration.

1. We should call ourselves " The Society of American and Allied Military Veterans".
2. Our mission will be to preserve the integrity of the Constitutional Republic of the United States and Allied Nations.
3. We will work within the framework of established law to bring about necessary changes in the internal and foreign policies of the Government for the betterment of the nation and its allies.

I would first ask you to consider the repeal of the Monroe Doctrine. It might have served well the fledgling nation in its infancy, but today it has become an impediment to the developement of effective foreign policy.
Isolationism can no longer serve the interests of the nation or the world.
When I consider the recent events in Iraq and Afganistan, I think my point is well made for this proposal.
Mine was a Phoenix generation. Our inheritance was blood and ashes. It was our mission from the beginning to take the blood and the ashes and make bricks and mortar and rebuild the edifice of our humanity. Lady Liberty stands today as a monument to our efforts. When ever I see her I am reminded of the sacrifice that many others have made so that I could enjoy the life that I now have. I endeavour to live my life in such a way that their efforts will not have been be spent in vain.
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Hey swifty, I'm with you, Just watch you don't get "Kerry'd away in the propwash

Sgt. Maj. Seamus D.D. MacNemi R.M.C. Ret.

[azTrish]

[MAsterBroomer]

Being from MA, I'd be all for a continuation of a "Swift Boats" feuled effort to unseat Kerry from the Senate after his upcoming 11/2/04 loss, but it may be unneccessary:


"coolhand" wrote:

[Digger]

Salute to azTish:
your article is well written and well thought. You have grasped my own thinking exactly. We have to get beyond sectarianism, tribalism and philosophical narrow mindedness. We must start to think first as Americans, only then can we approach the problems that seem to divide us as a people and as a nation.
The founders of this great nation likewise faced seemingly insurmountable sectarian and philosiphical difficulties. But they formulated our constitution to answer the questions that these problems presented.
While our constitution grants freedom of religion, it also guaranties freedom from religious persecution. We do not tolerate the use of 'GOD' as an excuse for restricting the rights of any citizen.
Likewise, we must consider the realities of the world we face today. We now face difficulties that our ancestors could never have dreamed of.
We must, in that same spirit, honestly and realistically confront the reality of those difficulties. We cannot allow ourselves to be blinded by mere religious of philosophical doctrine, but we must be able to explore connstructively and creatively the options available to us for answering those difficulties.
If we consider the matter of abortion, for instance, we must understand the social and historical forces that made abortion seem to be an option.
We cannot simply dismiss the question with some formulaic of dogma spouted without thinking. We must be allowed to view the situation objectively with an accurate understanding of the biological and social realities with which we must deal. Our gaol in such matters must be to preserve the integrity of our society. A good physician seeks to heal old wounds without inflicting new ones. This thought must be our guide in all such matters.
Amongst my own foflk, all matters concerning conception, gestation and birth are considered as matters of "The Womans Mystery" and as such they are beyond the purview of the civil law. These matters are the proper concern of women and do not concern men. A man is well advised not to meddle in those matters which do not concern him. But that is the view of my own folk and I would not seek to enforce our thinking upon others who might find our ways strange and unacceptable. Yet I cannot accept those who would seek to impose their ways of thinking upon me in the name of their God or their idea of morality.
It is true that Freedom is not free. Freedom is a burden and a responsibility. It takes a strong individual to be trully free. A weak minded
individual will always be subject to the whims of circumstance and misfortune. We must be free to choose our own paths in this life but we must be willing to accept the responsibility for the consequences of those choices. For in all matters of choice there are always consequences. One path may lead to reward and another might lead to perdition, but the choice must always be our own freely embarked upon. We cannot allow others to decide our choices for us.
My own view of the world is of necessity a warriors view. I was concieved and born in war and I have known war for most of my life. But I, at least, know 'WHY' I fought and why I will continue to fight. I fought as did my father and grandfather before me so that one day all men might be free from tyrany. Free from the tyrany of political despotism and likewise free from the tyrany of religious fanaticism. To this end my life is dedicated. I know of no other way.
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Hey swifty, I'm with you, Just watch you don't get "Kerry'd away in the propwash

Sgt. Maj. Seamus D.D. MacNemi R.M.C. Ret.