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dusty · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:37 pm Post subject:

Let the Commiecrats and their paid lackeys (the media) keep on biting themselves in the butt with their lies and made up stories like they have been doing.
They are in a hole and yet they keep digging. Must be a mental deficiency or something. And they are almost deep enough in that hole to be out of sight now!
Do they really consider the general public to be stupid enough not to see through their attempted deceptions? If I was a member of the Commiecratic party right now, I'd be seriously considering making a change. I'd be embarrased to let anyone know my political affiliation as long as my leaders continued to make such asses of themselves.
Certainly enjoyable to watch though for those on the other side of the fence.

Dusty

Doll · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:47 am Post subject:

shawa · CNO Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 2004

Re my previous post, it's Joe Wilson's lack of veracity that should be getting the scrutiny!! Great to see the Wall Street Journal recapping Wilson's Lies.

Karl Rove, Whistleblower
He told the truth about Joe Wilson.

Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT

Democrats and most of the Beltway press corps are baying for Karl Rove's head over his role in exposing a case of CIA nepotism involving Joe Wilson and his wife, Valerie Plame. On the contrary, we'd say the White House political guru deserves a prize--perhaps the next iteration of the "Truth-Telling" award that The Nation magazine bestowed upon Mr. Wilson before the Senate Intelligence Committee exposed him as a fraud.

For Mr. Rove is turning out to be the real "whistleblower" in this whole sorry pseudo-scandal. He's the one who warned Time's Matthew Cooper and other reporters to be wary of Mr. Wilson's credibility. He's the one who told the press the truth that Mr. Wilson had been recommended for the CIA consulting gig by his wife, not by Vice President Dick Cheney as Mr. Wilson was asserting on the airwaves. In short, Mr. Rove provided important background so Americans could understand that Mr. Wilson wasn't a whistleblower but was a partisan trying to discredit the Iraq War in an election campaign. Thank you, Mr. Rove.

~snip~

The same can't be said for Mr. Wilson, who first "outed" himself as a CIA consultant in a melodramatic New York Times op-ed in July 2003. At the time he claimed to have thoroughly debunked the Iraq-Niger yellowcake uranium connection that President Bush had mentioned in his now famous "16 words" on the subject in that year's State of the Union address.
Mr. Wilson also vehemently denied it when columnist Robert Novak first reported that his wife had played a role in selecting him for the Niger mission. He promptly signed up as adviser to the Kerry campaign and was feted almost everywhere in the media, including repeat appearances on NBC's "Meet the Press" and a photo spread (with Valerie) in Vanity Fair.

But his day in the political sun was short-lived. The bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee report last July cited the note that Ms. Plame had sent recommending her husband for the Niger mission. "Interviews and documents provided to the Committee indicate that his wife, a CPD [Counterproliferation Division] employee, suggested his name for the trip," said the report.

The same bipartisan report also pointed out that the forged documents Mr. Wilson claimed to have discredited hadn't even entered intelligence channels until eight months after his trip. And it said the CIA interpreted the information he provided in his debrief as mildly supportive of the suspicion that Iraq had been seeking uranium in Niger.

About the same time, another inquiry headed by Britain's Lord Butler delivered its own verdict on the 16 words: [b]"We conclude also that the statement in President Bush's State of the Union Address of 28 January 2003 that 'The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa' was well-founded."

In short, Joe Wilson hadn't told the truth about what he'd discovered in Africa, how he'd discovered it, what he'd told the CIA about it, or even why he was sent on the mission. The media and the Kerry campaign promptly abandoned him, though the former never did give as much prominence to his debunking as they did to his original accusations. But if anyone can remember another public figure so entirely and thoroughly discredited, let us know.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110006955
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PhantomSgt · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:42 am Post subject:

I hope Carl Rove runs for President in 08. Could you imagine the crap storm this would cause to the Democrats.

Dean would swallow his tounge during one of his epileptic fits.

Hilliary would lose the women's vote to that "Babe Magnet" Rove and fall into a deep depression as she tries to confront her sexuality issues.

Kerry would just lose the vote, if he had any vote left to lose.

I think Silky Pony would be much to enamoured with Carl to run against him, only to become a born again republican just to try and jump on his ticket as VP.

Of course John McCain could still play the middle of the road loser he always has in the past. He has this role nailed. Wake up John, Senators don't get elected President very often. Remember John, you have to run on your record.

Then there is the Wild Card, Dick Cheney. With his experience and seniority, Carl could offer him the VP spot. Shucks, with a steady supply of batteries Bionic Cheney is easily good for another eight years.

After his election Carl could push for "W" to be Secretary General of the UN, so "W" could bring some old time religion to that house of ill repute. Of course this would mean Bill Clinton would have to find other hunting grounds to feed his lust.

Oh well it is fun to speculate.

Cool

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BuffaloJack · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:21 am Post subject:

With the feeding frenzy that the MSM has had with Mr. Rove, I have finally gotten to the point of realizing that the media has degenerated into an elaborate blog. They no longer report and there isn't any actual news. The MSM will spout anything that fits their leftist agenda and if it doesn't fit they will spin it until it does. Even Fox fits this more often than not. Are there any real actual news sources left?
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Rdtf · CNO Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 2209 Location: BUSHville

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,162335,00.html

Doll · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:53 pm Post subject:

Rdtf · CNO Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 2209 Location: BUSHville

Newt has been everywhere talking about this, and last night he was on OReilly and he said just what I was thinking - How could Wilson go public in a letter to the NYT and not think folks would figure out his wife was CIA? And to top it off it is on his own website?? And then lie about how he got to Africa? Knowing it wasn't a huge secret this his wife worked for the folks that really sent him? If anyone is at fault here, it's him and the CIA. They sent a man that was openly anti war and anti Bush to obviously find a way to discredit the President. How is that playing fair? And to top it off, seems like that was a bigger job to be had by someone with more experience, which is the strange part. Did they not take this seriously?? Maybe not.

dusty · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:20 pm Post subject:

Sure starting to look like a deliberate attempt by someone/group of people in the CIA to discredit the President.
To me, this is what needs to be investigated. Why HE got chosen to go on this fact finding mission in the first place?

Dusty

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Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

There's no DTG of any kind in the source code for that page that I can see.

The most interesting thing on the page (aside from Plame's clear identification as Wilson's wife) is that the last date mentioned is 1998.

The wayback machine has the identical page archived back to Feb, 2003.
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Rdtf · CNO Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 2209 Location: BUSHville

Tanya · Senior Chief Petty Officer Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 570

Middle East Institute

Scroll all the way to the bottom at look at the copyright date.

http://www.fishkite.com/notes/ambassadorwilsonbio.htm

hmminCanada · Seaman Recruit Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 43

Another interesting thing about the CPSAG page that I have referred to above is that when you look at the biographies of the rest of the members of the team, only Wison's says anything about his marriage and his family. So who wrote the biography which I have now found inassociated with three different groups between 2002 and late 2004? Was it his secretary? Did Valerie write it for him? Did he write himself? And why include such personal information? Again I'm saying Hmmm...

Carolyn