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one more captins mast LCDR
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 438 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:27 pm Post subject: For those who can stand the "whole" story. "T |
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The judgement of John Kerry can be seen in this book,
His , "5,000 or so" is all that may come to harm"
Many American men are here today due to the courage
of these people, WHO KERRY BETRAYED.
TRAGIC MOUNTAINS
By Jane Hamilton-Merritt
published by Indina University Press.
You will not feel good for several days after reading this book
and you will feel "awful" if we have four years of this type of
???LEADERSHIP?????
and best of all , the "Gobal OPINION " blessed this work of his. _________________ the strange mr aj |
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cipher Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | As far as I can remember... think it was taught in Tech School (AIT) or maybe boot camp.... there has only been 1 person given the death penalty for desertion (1920's?!)..... |
On Jan. 31, 1945, Hamtramck-born Eddie Slovik was executed by firing a squad near the village of Ste-Marie aux Mines for the crime of desertion. Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower, supreme allied commander, personally ordered the execution during the closing days of World War II in order to deter other potential deserters.
During World War II, 21,049 American military personel were convicted of desertion, 49 were sentenced to death, but only Pvt. Slovik paid the ultimate price. In fact, he was the only American soldier to be executed for desertion since the American Civil War.
(the rest of the story from The Detroit News: http://info.detnews.com/history/story/index.cfm?id=103&category=people ) |
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dusty Admiral
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 1264 Location: East Texas
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the book title and author one more captins mast.
Got my local library ordering it. Wife is the librarian...hehe
Dusty |
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muggedliberal Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 92 Location: Alabama
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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The one that voted against HR 2833 on Sep 6, 2001 was Ron Paul, Texas-14th, a Republican.
Those that voted against it on July 19, 2004 are:
Abercrombie, Neil (Hawaii-1st) D
Baker, Richard (Louisiana=6th) R
Ballenger,Cass (NC-10th) R
Bell, Chris (Texas-25th) D *Isn't this who's been after DeLay??
Bonner, Jo (Alabama-1st) R
Carson, Julia (IN-7th) D
Carson, Brad (OK-2nd) D
Chocola, Chris (IN-2nd) R
Clay, William C (MO-1st) D
Collins, Mac (GA-8th) R
Cramer, Bud (AL-5th) D
Culberson, John (TX-7th) R
Davis, Danny (IL-7th) D
Delahunt, William (MA-10th) D
DeMint, Jim (SC-4th) R
Deutsch, Peter (FL-20th) D
Everett, Terry (AL-2nd) R
Fattah, Chaka (PA-2nd) D
Ferguson, Mike (NJ-7th) R
Frelinghuysen, Rodney (NJ-11) R
Frost, Martin (TX-24th) D
Gephardt, Richard (MO-3rd) D
Granger, Kay (TX-12th) R
Greenwood, James (PA-8th) R
Gutierrez, Luis (IL-4th) D
Hayes, Robin (NC-8th) R
Hinojosa, Reuben (TX-15th) D
Houghton, Amo (NY-29th) R
Hulshof, Kenny (MO-9th) R
Hunter, Duncan (CA-52nd) R
Inslee, Jay (WA-1st) D
Isakson, Johnny (GA-6th) R
John, Chris (LA-7th) D
Jones, Stephanie (OH-11th) D
Kennedy, Patrick (RI-1st) D
Kilpatrick, Carolyn (MI-13th) D
Kingston, Jack (GA-1st) R
Kleczka, Gerald (WI-4th) D
Lee, Barbara (CA-9th) D
Lipinski, William (IL-3rd) D
Majette, Denise (GA-4th) D
McCrery, Jim (LA-4th) R
McIntyre, Mike (NC-7th) D
McKeon, Buck (CA-25th) R
Menendez, Robert (NJ-13th) D
Miller, Candice (MI-10th) D
Neugebauer, Randy (TX-19th) R
Payne, Donald (NJ-10th) D
Pelosi, Nancy (CA-8th) D
Peterson, John (PA-5th) R
Pitts, Joe (PA-16th) R
Quinn, Jack (NY-27th) R
Renzi, Rich (AZ-1st) R
Ros-Lehtinen, Illeana (FL-18th) R
Rush. Bobby (IL-1st) D
Ryun, Jim (KS-2nd) R
Sanders, Bernard (VT-atlarge) I
Spratt. John (SC-5th) D
Sweeney, John (NY-20th) R
Toomey, Pat (PA-15th) R
Towns, Edolphus (NY-10th) D
Vitter, David (LA-1st) R
Watt, Melvin (NC-12th) D
Wexler, Robert (FL-19th) D
Young, Bill (FL-10th) R
Note: John didn't vote this time.
Hope this helps..
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Anker-Klanker Admiral
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 1033 Location: Richardson, TX
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, mugged.
By "John didn't vote this time," did you mean Ron Paul?
I couldn't help but notice Nancy Pelosi's name on that list...
There seem to have been a lot of people of different stripes who voted against it the second time, which makes me wonder if there were not something going on "out of sight" to explain it - like perhaps a rider attached when everyone knew the real Act would be killed by Kerry? |
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muggedliberal Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 92 Location: Alabama
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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AK, go to
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:HR01587:@@@D&summ1&
First bill passed:
Viet Nam Human Rights Act of 2003 - Prohibits U.S. nonhumanitarian assistance to the Government of Viet Nam (except for any program assisted in FY 2003) unless the President certifies to Congress that: (1) the Government of Viet Nam has made substantial progress toward releasing all political and religious prisoners from imprisonment, including respecting freedom of religion and the human rights of members of ethnic minority groups in the Central Highlands or elsewhere in Viet Nam; and (2) neither any official of the Government of Viet Nam nor any entity owned by such Government was complicit in a severe form of trafficking in persons (or the Government of Viet Nam took appropriate steps to end such complicity). Authorizes the President to waive such requirements if increased U.S. nonhumanitarian assistance would promote the purposes of this Act or is otherwise in the U.S. national interest.
Requires the President to ensure that certain human rights requirements are applied to multilateral nonhumanitarian assistance to Viet Nam by specified international financial institutions.
Authorizes the President to provide U.S. assistance, through appropriate nongovernmental organizations, for the support of individuals and organizations to promote human rights and nonviolent democratic change in Viet Nam.
Declares it is U.S. policy: (1) to take such measures as are necessary to overcome the jamming of Radio Free Asia by the Government of Viet Nam; and (2) that educational and cultural exchange programs with Viet Nam should promote progress toward freedom and democracy.
Declares it is U.S. policy to offer refugee resettlement to Viet Nam nationals (including members of the Montagnard ethnic minority groups) who are eligible for the Orderly Departure Program or any other U.S. refugee program, but who were deemed ineligible for reasons of administrative error or certain circumstances beyond their control.
Directs the Secretary of State to report annually to Congress on: (1) whether requirements in the President's determination and certification have been met, or on the President's waiver of such requirements; (2) U.S. efforts to secure transmission sites for Radio Free Asia in countries close to Viet Nam; (3) efforts to ensure that educational and cultural exchange programs with Viet Nam promote certain participation policies; (4) U.S. steps to offer refugee resettlement to certain Viet Nam nationals; (5) actions of the Government of Viet Nam reflecting compliance with or violation of human rights; (6) lists of persons believed to be persecuted by the Government of Viet Nam for their pursuit of human rights; and (7) a description of projects funded by multilateral organizations operating in Viet Nam.
Amendment passed this summer:
Vietnam Human Rights Act of 2004 - Title I: Conditions on Increased Nonhumanitarian Assistance to the Government of Vietnam - (Sec. 101) Prohibits FY 2005 U.S. nonhumanitarian assistance to the Government of Vietnam in excess of FY 2004 levels unless the President certifies to Congress that the Government of Vietnam: (1) has made substantial progress toward releasing all political and religious prisoners from imprisonment and other forms of detention; (2) has made substantial progress toward respecting the right to freedom of religion, and has made substantial progress toward returning estates and properties confiscated from the churches; (3) has made substantial progress toward allowing Vietnamese nationals access to U.S. refugee programs; and (4) has made substantial progress toward respecting the human rights of members of ethnic minority groups in the Central Highlands and elsewhere in Vietnam.
Prohibits U.S. post-FY 2005 nonhumanitarian assistance to the Government of Vietnam in excess of FY 2004 levels unless the President certifies to Congress that the Government of Vietnam: (1) has made substantial progress toward releasing all political and religious prisoners from imprisonment and other forms of detention; (2) has made substantial progress toward respecting the right to freedom of religion, and has made substantial progress toward returning estates and properties confiscated from the churches; (3) has made substantial progress toward allowing Vietnamese nationals access to U.S. refugee programs; (4) has made substantial progress toward respecting the human rights of members of ethnic minority groups in the Central Highlands and elsewhere in Vietnam; and (5) neither any official of the Government of Vietnam nor any of its agencies was complicit in a severe form of trafficking in persons, or the Government of Vietnam took all appropriate steps to end any such complicity and hold any such official, agency, or entity fully accountable for its conduct.
Authorizes the President to waive such requirements if increased U.S. nonhumanitarian assistance would promote the purposes of this Act or is otherwise in the U.S. national interest.
Title II: Assistance to Support Human Rights and Democracy in Vietnam - (Sec. 201) Authorizes the President to provide U.S. assistance, through appropriate nongovernmental organizations, for the support of individuals and organizations to promote human rights and nonviolent democratic change in Vietnam. Authorizes FY 2005 and 2006 appropriations.
Title III: United States Public Diplomacy - (Sec. 301) Declares it is U.S. policy: (1) to take necessary measures to overcome the jamming of Radio Free Asia by the Government of Vietnam; and (2) that educational and cultural exchange programs with Vietnam should promote progress toward freedom and democracy.
Title IV: Annual Report on Progress Toward Freedom and Democracy in Vietnam - (Sec. 401) Directs the Secretary of State to report annually to Congress on: (1) whether requirements in the President's certification have been met, or on the President's waiver of such requirements; (2) U.S. efforts to secure transmission sites for Radio Free Asia in countries close to Vietnam; (3) efforts to ensure that educational and cultural exchange programs with Vietnam promote certain participation policies; (4) U.S. steps to offer refugee resettlement to certain Vietnamese nationals; (5) actions of the Government of Vietnam reflecting compliance with or violation of human rights; (6) lists of persons believed to be persecuted by the Government of Vietnam for their pursuit of human rights; and (7) the development of the rule of law in Vietnam.
I'm no legal eagle, but there are some definite changes, and I'm not sure why the two first paragraphs are almost identical, but that's the way it is posted.
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muggedliberal Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 92 Location: Alabama
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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and yes, I meant Ron Paul ![Embarassed](images/smiles/icon_redface.gif) |
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drjohn Senior Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 550 Location: CT
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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This is great work.
It's all coming together |
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