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PhantomSgt
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| jwb7605 wrote: | The obvious answer, of course, is to lower standards
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No the obvious answer is to institute the draft. After all the last time I checked we were at war. Time to break some of these boys away from the mama's tit and put them in uniform.
Of course this is what the Democrats want so they can raise the issue in 08. How better to trap the current administration by increasing troop size without the resources.
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I B Squidly
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I'm not sure there is a short fall. I think the MSM glomed on to the factoid of boot camps running at 20% capacity in March and April. Seasonally the camps are packed in May with delayed induction through the summer.
What I saw my last years in the Navy was a shortfall that matched the count of females on maternity but still assigned! Too, the great resource of the recruiters, the back of juvenile court was closed. The "Not in My Navy" closed the door to all those teenie pot smokers who were guaranteed 'push button nuke pukes', vehicular exuberant BTs and coke magnates that ASFABed to crypto. The 'Not on My Ship' program corrals abuse (though we had an HT on my Adams class who lost his crow three times in four years for Japanese cough syrup but stayed on OP Hold as fire team leader). I'ld rather smart felons than more IQ waivers.
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BuffaloJack
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With new enlistments down. This is a perfect opportunity for the Leftists to push for more troops and maybe bring back the draft. Once a draft is in place, everyone will associate it with the current administration and then they can campaign in 2008, point to Mr. Bush as bringing back the draft and promise to abolish it if they get in. They know that the voters have a short attention span and will forget that it was the left that pushed for troop increases in the first place.
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jwb7605
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| PhantomSgt wrote: | | jwb7605 wrote: | The obvious answer, of course, is to lower standards
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No the obvious answer is to institute the draft. After all the last time I checked we were at war. Time to break some of these boys away from the mama's tit and put them in uniform.
Of course this is what the Democrats want so they can raise the issue in 08. How better to trap the current administration by increasing troop size without the resources.
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I still submit that special forces are difficult to draft, which makes my (unwanted) solution more obvious, at least to me. The type of war we are in does not lend itself to a requirement of additional bodies ... it requires a more specialized solution.
The concept of getting more warm bodies, then instructing and training them how to "win hearts and minds" (being a friend to kids in Iraq comes to mind) when that warm body was drafted and resents just being in the military does NOT give me a warm fuzzy. I speak from some experience here ... USN 1968-1972: USN to avoid the draft. I wasn't the only one in my squadron in that position, and I certainly didn't have the worst attitude.
P.S.: the term "special forces" is not restricte to SEAL, Recon, or Geen Beret types.[/i] |
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