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[JasonBinPNW]

[JasonBinPNW]

[sparky]

Um, Jason, I was referring to Bush, who just can't find anyone who served with him in Alabama during the time his campaign claims he was there.

Not surprising since he won't release the records that would settle the matter as to where he was during that time. This, of course, would include disciplinary information about why, exactly, he was grounded from flight.

Odd that Kerry has his band of brothers and two hundred republicans claiming they remember him there yet nobody remembers Bush who was there during that time.

[sparky]

Maybe we should clarify what we mean when we say Bush failed to show up for Guard duty and why his records should be released to show that at least he showed up. (Kerry's records and evidence do at least show he was where he was supposed to be).

The Washington Post reports that Bush joined the National Guard 12 days before his student deferment would have expired, and that in spite of his low score on the pilot's aptitude test (25, the lowest score allowed), and in spite of the waiting list that some kids spent years on, Bush was sworn in as an airman the day he applied. Indeed, so giddy was Bush's commander, Col. Walter B. "Buck" Staudt, that he later staged a special ceremony so he could have his picture taken giving Bush the oath, instead of the captain who actually had sworn Bush in. Bush spent two years learning to fly airplanes in his home state of Texas.

As the 2000 Presidential campaign moved along, angry veterans in Alabama claimed that George W Bush never performed any military service in that state, as stated on his campaign website. They offered a reward of $1000 (which rose to $3,500) to anyone who could prove that he had. No one came forth with any proof.

Eight days before the election, the Boston Globe reported discrepancies between the Bush campaign's statements regarding his military service and what records and documents showed. In 1972, the Globe reported, Bush moved from Houston to Mobile, Alabama to work on a Senate campaign. It was at this time, the Globe found, that he was suspended from flight duty for not taking his annual flight physical. Furthermore, the Globe could find no evidence that he ever performed any drills while in Alabama, or any more drills after returning to Houston.

All that I've read and seen on this tells me one thing: taxpayers spent $1 million training him to defend Texas and Alabama from foreign invaders and he didn't show up.

In the spirit of SBVT's mission statement, I believe that it is incumbent on ALL presidential candidates to be totally honest and forthcoming regarding personal background information.

To show the public that he at least showed up, he should release all his records, not just a single dental exam.

[JasonBinPNW]

Item #3 came out of his own mouth. But I guess that one doesn't count since he was speaking out of emotion then too... fear for his political life.

There is no doubt that there were atrocities comitted by US Forces. Kerrys statements to congress were such that it was taken from abominations within a few units to Standard Operating Procedure for all US Forces operating in theater.

And that is a damn lie. It's a defamatory statement made by a man who now wants to act like he's the guy veterans should back. He betrayed his oath to "render true faith and allegence" to his comrades in arms by defaming and liabling them.

A Commissioned Officer in the United States Military draws his commission from the President, and swears an oath and must adhere to a code of conduct. Among the items within that standard are that he or she:

A) Must never lie. Not to his troops, or his superiors.
B) Must never evade his responsibilities to the troops that he or she commands.
C) Must never make statements against the President of the United States under which he serves.
D) Must do everything within his power to ensure that the laws of land warfare are adhered to at all times by any subordinate inside or outside of his chain of command.
E) That he or she will abide by, and enforce the Uniform Code of Military Justice in the interests of maintaining good order and discipline within his command.

There are a lot more, these are five that Kerry violated. We take that oath, and adherence to the code of conduct seriously. Failing to do so voids your right to lead troops who not only expect, but demand that you set that example.

If he'd simply kept his mouth shut instead of trying to diminish the presidents service (through Terry McAullif who never served a day in his life...what gaul), we wouldn't be having this conversation. However, he opened up a can of worms that he did not expect... that his service would indeed be scrutinized, and he would be taken to task for his word and deed.

The day that I hear the president bragging about his "war hero" status, will be the day that I raise my BS flag on him too.

Now do you see what I have been trying to say for the last dozen or so posts?
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Semper Fi!

Jason

Proud member of "The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy"

[sparky]

I don't buy it. Oh, I understand the accusation, but I haven't seen anything confirming this from a legitimate source (your word that "he lied" just won't cut it, sorry). As far as I'm concerned, much of that list requires that military personnel act patriotically and honorably by protesting a brutal and horrific war. Anyone witnessing ear necklaces who doesn't protest the war has a few screws loose.

[JasonBinPNW]

[Greenhat]

[Greenhat]

[JasonBinPNW]

Sparky,
I want you to pay particular attention to Greenhats Signature Line.

Read the links he posted. It's all there, and if you don't trust those sources, there are many many more that say the same thing.
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Semper Fi!

Jason

Proud member of "The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy"

[sparky]

[sparky]

[Greenhat]

[Greenhat]

[Craig]