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Bostonian Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 81
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Well, there's an easy way for Kerry's campaign to defuse this:
Just post the signed 180 on the campaign web site.
Let's see it! |
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Slednfool Seaman
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 198 Location: New Brighton, MN
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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[url]http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/military_records.html |
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zinfella Rear Admiral
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 708 Location: Mesa, Az
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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zinfella wrote: |
Insulting a reporter's is downright ignorant for a presidental candidate, just ask Gary Hart. |
"Insulting a reporter's is"? That what I get for typing before I've had my coffee.  _________________ No whiners! |
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kmmpatriot Lt.Jg.
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 146
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe later I will waste some time and count the number of pages represented by those files...it isn't everything and they know it  _________________ The Wise man draws more Advantage from his Enemies, than the Fool from his Friends. - from Poor Richard's Almanac...and a perfect commentary on the current state of this campaign! |
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Jette Lt.Jg.
Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 118
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Meehan called Dobbs a liar, in effect. Remember that Meehan said last week that "medical summaries" were posted, not the official medical records.
The problem is...tv show hosts and reporters are TOO IGNORANT as to what is going on to ask the RIGHT question and the RIGHT follow up. They have too many stories to cover, and not enough depth on any of them, particularly THIS one, which is the MOST IMPORTANT of all.  |
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rbshirley Founder
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 394
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: Tony Snow and Meehan |
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hanna wrote: | Meehan claims ....... |
"Bagdad Bob" => "Mealy Mouth Meehan" => "The Swift Vet's ads are not effective"
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"We have cooperated with the weapons inspectors" => "McCain decrys Swift Vet ad"
"US Forces have been stopped at the border" => "They were not on Kerry's boat"
"The Basra oil fields remain in our hands" => "All boats fled except Kerry's"
"We have started our counter attack" => "Bush is behind the Swift Vets' ad"
"The Republican Guard is decimating them" => "Kerry pusued a superior force"
"We are holding firm near Falujah" => "Wesley Clark supports Kerry's medals"
"The great leader waves to a cheering crowd" => " Max Cleland delivers a letter to ..."
"There are NO US tanks at the airport" => "Kerry was in Cambodia on Christmas"
"We are still in control in Bagdad" => "Admiral Schachte wasn't on the skimmer"
"The government buildings are safe" => "Kerry bravely told the truth to the Senate"
"I will hold a press conference to report victory" => "The polls show Kerry ahead"
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Fast forward to November:
"Bagdad Bob is no where to be found" => "Kerry is at home awaiting the outcome"
Inch by inch we are gtting closer to the truth
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Stevie Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 1451 Location: Queen Creek, Arizona
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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anyone watching Tony Snow now? see Susan Estrich? what a liar!!!
Charles is right... normal people don't like how nasty the Dam o rats are...
I wouldn't let my kids listen to them.... what does that tell kids? it's ok for
adults to lie?
and I hope Susan watches the video to the show she was just on.... she looked stupid..and you could tell she was lying - I don't think she made eye contact with Tony.... he knew she was lying.... and she knew that he knew she was lying.... how stupid!
there does seem to be alot more docs on Kerry site.... I hadn't been on it for over a week so maybe they've been there.... but I sure don't believe he's released them all.... I wouldn't believe that if he sweared on his mother's grave! someone try to count them / copy and save them before they change them again.... I don't know how to copy that kind of doc over to my hard drive.... |
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Stevie Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 1451 Location: Queen Creek, Arizona
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, that's it!
from now on Kerry is BAGDAD KERRY
think they'll get the drift? maybe a few emails to the talk shows like
BOR using 'Bagdad Kerry' will really tick off the Dam o rats.... |
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poseidon Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 97 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:04 pm Post subject: copying pdf to local drive |
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Quote: | I don't know how to copy that kind of doc over to my hard drive.... |
With most browsers click right mouse button
on the link and then select appropriate action
usually
"save local copy" or
"save target as" or
"save link target as"
wording depends on browser |
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Billman Lt.Jg.
Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 126 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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I sent Tony and various others the following. I borrowed heavily from info on the Resources board - thanks everyone. There is a thread there already on "what documents haven't been released" so please don't restart that topic here.
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Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 10:05 AM
To: 'tonysnow@foxnews.com'
Cc: various
Subject: Tony Snow: Michael Meehan just lied on national TV - PROVABLE
That "arrghh" you just heard was several thousand Navy veterans and supporters slapping there foreheads. YOU JUST CAUGHT MEEHAN IN A LIE.
Here are just some of the records Kerry camp still witholds, please ask Meehan about them SPECIFICALLY:
1. The after-action report and injury report that justifies his first PH. These are *required* for a PH to be awarded - look at the PH regs. This PH was awarded 78 days after the date of the "wound".
2. The OPNAV 1650/3 that recommended a Silver Star.
3. The requests that resulted in two revisions of the citation for the Silver Star, the last signed by Naval Secretary Lehman in the 1980's (!)
4. The requests for the amendment of his DD-214 and the justificactions.
5. His medical records that justify all three Purple Hearts
6. Full fitness reports: several on the Kerry website are missing pages!
7. Page 1 of the radio message to BuPers that transmitted the new and improved detaching FitRep (his final fitrep was modified and reissued, which is unusual)
One other thing, Rear Admiral Schachte did not "change his story" in any way - another lie. Read his full MSNBC interview, it is sincere and compelling. Note the reporter demands "documentation" he was in the boat, but has never demanded this from the Kerry-supporting enlisted men.
Finally, beward an important subtlety: Kerry camp says all the records available "from the Navy" have been disclosed. The Navy does not have custody of personnel and medical records! These types of records are in the custody of a division of the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), namely the National Personnel Records Center, Military Personnel Records divison, in St. Louis - and they are protected by privacy laws that can only be breached by written permission of the veteran (the Standard Form 180). _________________ -- Bill in Seattle |
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RivanG Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 01 Jun 2004 Posts: 90 Location: West Virginia
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Just saw Susan Estrich talking with Tony Snow...
The hypocrisy of these dems.
She said that SBVFT is a smear campaign and when asked if MoveOn.org and Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 911 were also smear campaigns against Bush, she said "I don't think so..."?????? |
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frankzzz Ensign
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 65 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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I was just at his website and found about 20 documents.
I did not look at all of them but, judging from the titles, they probably do not contain anything new.
And, a few of the documents I did look at were so light that you would need a forensic expert to tell what they actually said.
Also, by no stretch of the imaginagion are there 130 documents there.
Also, I don't trust anything on the Kerry website anyway. Is there a way for either the press or one of the Swift Boat lawyers to get their own separate copy of all the documents? That's what needed. |
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Billman Lt.Jg.
Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 126 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 12:02 am Post subject: |
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"Is there a way for either the press or one of the Swift Boat lawyers to get their own separate copy of all the documents?"
Of course. Mr. Kerry needs to sign Standard Form 180. That is our mantra.
If there's a Kerry event in your town, please hold up a large sign stating "SIGN FORM 180" _________________ -- Bill in Seattle |
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igor Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 81
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 12:19 am Post subject: |
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Billman wrote: | 1. The after-action report and injury report that justifies his first PH. These are *required* for a PH to be awarded - look at the PH regs. This PH was awarded 78 days after the date of the "wound".
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Meehan said that they have released all the records. There was no after-action report for the first PH. Therefore we can now claim, that the Navy documents prove that Kerry is lying about his first PH. |
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minnie presley Commander
Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 307
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 1:38 am Post subject: documents |
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saw meeley mouthed ostrich,I don't know why any of the shows have her on she is witch,the voice is enough to drive anyone to drink, in regards to documents I saw on one of the other sites where hackworth was compling a list of documents, why has he been so quite , surekly he cannot condone what kerry is doing, I am dissappointed in him that he is not out there supporting you guys, he has never had a problem voicing his digust before |
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