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baldeagl
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The only problem with all this is that military men and women recognize the problems with these reports easily. Civilians do not. In a way this isn't a problem, because a big audience for this stuff is military. Once they realize what's going on, they instantly despise Kerry. Civilans have a harder time with it because a lot of it doesn't make much sense. That's why it's important to reveal both issues - Kerry's service record convinces military not to support him - his actions in the anti-war movement convince non-military not to support him.
Interesting story - I have a 69 year old friend who would never vote for Bush. He's beginning to realize what a ******* Kerry is - he actually sent me email about it - so I'm trying to convince him to vote for Nadar or Bednarik. I actually think that, for the first time in his life, he won't vote for a Democrat for President.
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NavyChief
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Beatrice1000
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| Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:41 pm Post subject: Re: 18 FEB 69 ANALYSIS |
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| NavyChief wrote: | | ...Some OTC's would let Kerry write the report, but would make sure they themselves documented the wounded reports... You can see this was fluid. .. It appears that LCDR Elliot took a majority of the reports at face value. Why wouldn't he? These were his men and he trusted them.... Kerry was a different bird. ... I've seen this kind over and over again in my 20 years. We have a variety of names for these types of officers, "Brown-nose" and other not so nice names. |
NavyChief - If that's rambling, please continue to do so! -- you give a real good sense of what was going on in addition to the specific facts and it gives me a better sense of the situation. Under these conditions, I am surprised at the amount of reporting that was being done. (I want the missing reports though - I want them to pop up from some unexpected place....) As to the Kerry-type of officer, yes, we've got those sort out here in the corp. world, too. [They are not as dangerous though.]
I just love your work and read everything you write -- thanks for taking the time to answer. |
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Beatrice1000
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| NavyChief wrote: | | ..The only documentation I have is Command History Report,.... |
Why is the para. re: 2/28/69 in the "Chronology of Highlights"-Command History and the para. about the same incident in "Command History" a little bit different? More info in the Chronology.... Which came first? |
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NavyChief
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kate
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Chief, without looking at the documents, I think she's saying re the 2/28/69 incident,that it is worded differently in:
Chronology of Highlights
Command History
and the question is, which would have been written first?
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Splendid!
Good job Chief,
Any Naval Officer that will falsify reports, will not have any hesitation to lie to the Congress of the U.S.
Demonstrates the intensity of his Liberal agenda!
Read: http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8068
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Beatrice1000
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Why is the para. re: 2/28/69 in the "Chronology of Highlights"-Command History and the para. about the same incident in "Command History" a little bit different? More info in the Chronology.... Which came first?
Beatrice, I'm not sure I understand your question fully, can you elaborate please?
I have these docs separately stapled, so I am assuming I printed them out as separate docs.
1. Command History -- "Chronology of Highlights"
2. Command History -- "2. Basic Narrative"
There is a paragraph about the 2/28/69 incident. It is similar but different in these reports. |
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NavyChief
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Even an old ground pounder, now built like a quarter pounder, knows the answer to point #7. Don't you remember his citation for his newly developed tactic of beaching his boat, jumping off, and engaging the enemy on foot? That's why the VC changed their tactics an moved their ground ambush force several hundred yards up-river, away from the exploding mine. They didn't want to confront a true American hero! The first Rambo! Or, maybe they were afraid of being buried in his BS!
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Thanks for your excellent work & research NavyChief! |
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