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arymann
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| zinfella wrote: |
We really have our plate full here trying to undo John F-ing Kerry, and the legal travails of BOR are not a means to that end. This is a non productive tangent, that distracts from our goal! But I'll bet Oprah is interested, why not take it there? |
In case you haven't noticed, zin, this is the place for things like this!
Quote form the Main Forums Page:
-- Geedunk & Scuttlebutt --
When you need a break from all things Kerry...post off-topic here. |
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truthserum
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 4:53 am Post subject: |
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Zinfella, we can fight the battle in several places at one time. You know, like global terrorism.
O'Reilly hurt the Swifties cause.
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Jim T.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:09 am Post subject: |
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| zinfella wrote: | | After skimming the text of both lawsuits, I would conclude that there is some pretty damaging evidence of some sort, |
Really? Why don't you post it?
We really have our plate full here trying to undo John F-ing Kerry, and the legal travails of BOR are not a means to that end. This is a non productive tangent, that distracts from our goal! But I'll bet Oprah is interested, why not take it there?[/quote]
The woman's lawsuit can be found at the first link (most sexually graphic wording used to date by BOR, even worse than his porn star guests). BOR's is at second link.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris1.html
http://www.drudgereport.com/fox.htm
Maybe we would not have to be doing so much to "undo John F-ing Kerry" if BOR would have been more honest in covering the SBVT story!!! It was clear to me after BOR showed utter disrespect and contempt for the SBVT organization that he was a total fraud. Some people obviously are not as discerning as me. Since this is posted in G&S, I see no problem pointing out the shortcomings of someone who we depended on to further the reach of the SBVT story only to have him stab us in the back.
It is clear to me BOR that all the time he was fooling us/you that he was "looking out for us" he was "on the lookout" for his Assistant Producer.
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zinfella
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:19 am Post subject: |
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| Jim T. wrote: |
The woman's lawsuit can be found at the first link |
What can be found there are her accusations, nothing more. Your remarks seem to confirn her unsubstantiated claims, do yui have the gift of clairvoyance? What happened to innocent until proven guilty? If the DNC and the libs say that the Swiftees are lying, and then post it here is that enough for you to convict them? Well, we all know that the Swiftees have been maligned, and I hope we are smart enough not to believe it.
While I do not agree with BOR's treatment of the Swiftees, I fail to see how airing BOR's dirty laundry on this site helps them. This site is about truth, not uncorroborated BS.
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Jim T.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:23 am Post subject: |
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Zinfella:
Read BOR's lawsuit and let me know if you think he is clean.
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Hammer2
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:32 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Zin. Don't misunderstand me - I say let the chips fall where they may.
BOR put his ignorance on display about UFC & the Swifties. On the other hand, he has raked people like Moore and Krugman over hot coals. Like most of us he has his flaws, but he isn't the enemy.
If BOR did what he is accused of - fine, let him pay the piper.
If he didn't, then this is a political hit job.
In the absence of any evidence, he deserves the benefit of the doubt. Love or hate his opinions, but respect his rights!
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zinfella
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What I think doesn't amount to a hill of beans, with regard to the suit, which is very likely to be settled out of court, making this a waste of time. In closing, accusations are not proof of guilt, or innocence. They are, in this case, a grab at headlines.
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truthserum
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It's best not to say BOR is guilty or innocent before the charges are proven or not.
I don't think anyone means any harm on this topic. People are just airing out their feelings because they felt stung over BOR's dismissal of the Swiftvets.
We can wait to see what really happened before we pass judgment unlike he did with the Swiftvets in not reading the book before he dismissed them as liars.
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Jim T.
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| zinfella wrote: | | What I think doesn't amount to a hill of beans, with regard to the suit, which is very likely to be settled out of court, making this a waste of time. In closing, accusations are not proof of guilt, or innocence. They are, in this case, a grab at headlines. |
Lets see now, hmmmm: accusations not a proof of guilt, settle out of court, where have I heard this before? Oh Yeah!!! Sounds like Bill Clinton. Now the Bill's will have something in common. They settled sexual harrasment cases that they were not guilty of out of court.
I wonder what has more probative weight the "blue dress" or the "blue tapes?"
The fact of the matter is that BOR has sold us a bill of goods. At least he still has duped enough people so that "they are looking out for him."
Zinfella, lay off the Turley Dogtown.
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PC
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:58 am Post subject: Smells Bad |
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Fox has completely run over CNN.
I used to like BOR also but not anymore. But I do think this could be a setup. When you start getting into taped conversations, I just keep thinking conspiracy, put in place by CNN.
But this will be huge in that BOR is going to find out just how many enemies he really has, from Stuart Smally on one side to Michael Savage on the other.
This will get his mind of interviewing Kerry and I don't care if he ever does as he won't ask him the hard questions concerning the Swifties and the discharge question. |
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DaveS
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I am not a fan of BOR but could this be Dems answer to Rathergate?
Make FOX look bad right before the elections? |
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Navy_Navy_Navy
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:09 am Post subject: |
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This forum is here for discussions off the subject of Swifts and how they affect the Kerry campaign.
We have everything from online polls to important discussions about Iraq and the mainstream media to absolute absurdity and silliness.
Read what you want to read. Don't read what doesn't interest you.
Respond or not, as you choose. Participate in the threads you want to.
Work wherever you can willingly put your hands and mind best to the task.
We're all working for the same goal - defeating Traitor John.
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truthserum
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There seem to be a lot of stories hitting the fan here lately. Makes one wonder what is going on. Like, the Iraq nuke missing story, BOR, CBS saying they are not going to let people know their findings until after the election, the Stolen Honor flap, the Kerry discharge story, Loftus saying on Fox BIG stuff is going to come out about WMD. It is head spinning.
One could start having fantasies of a great, universal conspiracy going on. 
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ord33
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Obviously, I have no idea of the truth of these allegations, but IF they are true, and she really did state her disproval of his comments, then I think O'Reilly should be absolutely ashamed of writing this kids book he is promoting as a "must read" for kids ages 12 and up. What a great role model?
If true, Boycott France & Boycott O'Reilly Factor For Kids. |
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zinfella
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:39 am Post subject: |
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| Jim T. wrote: |
Lets see now, hmmmm: accusations not a proof of guilt, settle out of court, where have I heard this before? |
How about Kobe Bryant?
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