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hist/student
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| hist/student wrote: | Craig 1500 words cut and pasted off the Kerry website. You were doing better with the Salon .ocm drivvel.
As you know kerry does not stand behind anything he says.... blames any problems which arrise on 'speech writers' and the like. will not take responsiblilites for his words or deeds..... lord knows what the hell he thinks about
So you see paroting his web site is a waste of the ether here in this little bit of cyber sbace. |
Oops. Folks are so poor about posting links at this site that I seem to be getting into same sorry habit.
http://releases.usnewswire.com/printing.asp?id=121-05142004 |
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ASPB
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| Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| Craig wrote: | | ASPB wrote: | | Craig wrote: | | ASPB wrote: | | Craig wrote: | | Craig wrote: | | Marine4life wrote: | | Typical democrat spin master, can anyone tell me where I said the cops are in with alqueda. Or Craig are you suggesting that our law enforcement is connected with alqueda. I hope your remarks are just pure ignorance and not what you believe. Or are you just trying to manufacture statements and say that I said them like Kerry did in 1971 about his fellow soldiers. |
It was you who equated al Qaeda endorsement to International Brotherhood of Police Officers endorsement. Along with that idiotic accusation about them getting to vote.
Now let is see what is ad hominem in all that when you make such spurious accusation to belittle the candidate as well as his actual endorsers with what is a pretty much standard form of attack by one with nothing of substance to support his argument.
Amusing too when some [expletive] would try to turn what is said back on one who would point out the [expletive] accusation
Marine4life said:
I understand that alqeda is endorsing Kerry as well, and the sad part is if he gets elected they will be allowed to vote next time. |
Marine4life never did get back to me about his equating International Brotherhood of Police Officers to Al Qaeda. |
I think you're missing a point here! A union endorsements come from union leadership and doesn't necessarily reflect the views of the Union's members. A endorsement from Jimmy Hoffa's Teamsters didn't do Humphrey any good either.
The clowns that run these unions represent only themselves and not their constituency! Union membership as a percentage of workers has gone from 20% 23 years ago to 8% today. The union movement, like communism is just that, another failed movement. It may come back if business owners become as abusive as they were during the early 20th century. Personally I think that's unlikely. The better answer is greater equity ownership of businesses by their employees. Capitalism at it's best IMHO.
Best wishes. |
Instead of a blanket slander on all unions why don't you elaborate on what you know about the one in question? |
Jeez Craig,
I wasn't slandering unions; just self-serving union leaders and socialist politicians that pander to union leaders!  I'd love to see a poll of street cops about dealing forcefully with criminals and terrorists.  |
Then you know something about the union in question, that it leaders are as you accuse above?
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39e61db810c2.htm |
BTW Craig,
Weren't you the useful fool that was spewing hate for cops and and correctional officers just a few days ago. Your personal legend of being an abused convicted felon? OH! that's the two-day old legend. What's your persona today? Voting street cop?
I don't think so!
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Navymomx2
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| Craig wrote: | More Cops Endorse Kerry: Reflects John Kerry's Strong Anti-Crime Record, Bush's Failures to Support Law Enforcement, Says Campaign
5/14/2004 12:05:00 PM
To: National Desk, Political Reporter
Contact: Sarah Gegenheimer of John Kerry for President, 202-712-3000; Web: http://www.johnkerry.com
WASHINGTON, May 14 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The following was released today by John Kerry for President:
The International Brotherhood of Police Officers (IBPO) is the only major national police organization to have endorsed the winner of the last three presidential elections. Today, IBPO endorses John Kerry because of his strong anti-crime record and because of President Bush's consistent failure to support law enforcement in the battle against crime and the war against terror. Joining the International Union of Police Associations (IUPA) in support of John Kerry, IBPO sends another message that John Kerry stands for a strong and safe America.
IBPO ENDORSED GEORGE W. BUSH IN 2000, BILL CLINTON IN 1996 AND 1992:
IBPO Called George W. Bush "The Law and Order Candidate" When Endorsing Him in 2000. In the 2000 campaign for President, Governor George W. Bush received the endorsement of the International Brotherhood of Police Officers. IBPO stated: "In this election, Gov. Bush is absolutely the law and order candidate...Governor Bush is a friend of police officers." (IBPO, Police Chronicle, October, 2000)
IBPO Endorsed Bill Clinton in 1996 and 1992. During the 1992 and 1996 campaigns for President, Bill Clinton received the endorsement of the IBPO. IBPO stated: "We cannot take another four years of a Bush administration...They have stripped police departments and cities of the monies the federal government was pouring in to help us with our war on crime." Clinton "trumpeted" the endorsement during the campaign. (The Commercial Appeal, 10/10/92; Atlanta Journal-Constitution, 10/10/92; Washington Post, 11/4/96)
JOHN KERRY HAS STOOD BY POLICE OFFICERS:
John Kerry Led the Fight for Additional 100,000 Police Officers on America's Streets. John Kerry led the fight to add 100,000 police to our streets through his work on the 1994 crime bill and its Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) program. Kerry personally pushed the Clinton White House, the Justice Department, and members of Congress to obtain funding for the 100,000 cops program. Kerry "persuaded the Senate and the Clinton White House to finance a campaign pledge to put 100,000 more police officers on the street." (Boston Globe, 6/21/03; S.Amdt. 1202 to S 1607, 11/16/03; Reason Magazine. 3/94)
Kerry Worked With Law Enforcement Officials to Ban Military- Style Assault Weapons. John Kerry has strongly supported the current ban on machine guns and assault weapons-including AK-47's and similar weapons used by terrorists in Afghanistan. Police organizations including IBPO strongly support extension of the current ban. (RC 375, S Amdt. 1152 to S Amdt. 1151 to S 1607, 11/17/93; Orange County Register, 3/2/04)
Kerry is a National Leader in Working to Ban "Cop Killer Bullets." John Kerry is a national leader in promoting sensible oversight of ammunition sales which have no sporting value yet risk the lives of police officers. Kerry has strongly supported measures to crack down on armor-piecing, "cop killer" bullets. (S. 553, 4/10/97; S. 433, 2/16/95; RC 240, S Amdt. 3351 to S. 2312, 7/28/98; RC 116, S Amdt. 343 to S 254, 5/13/99)
As a County Prosecutor, Kerry Fought Crime and Put Away Murderers and Mob Bosses. John Kerry was the first assistant prosecutor of Middlesex County (one of the largest counties in the country) and won convictions in high profile murder, rape and mafia cases. Kerry led the prosecutor's office in a major modernization. "He launched initiatives that were innovative at the time: special units to prosecute white-collar and organized crime, programs to counsel rape victims and aid other crime victims and witnesses, and a system for fast-tracking priority cases to trial" and "is credited with reducing the backlog of cases." (Boston Globe, 6/18/03; Washington Post, 2/21/85)
GEORGE BUSH HAS TURNED HIS BACK ON COPS:
George Bush Guts Funding for Police Officers. The Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) program has helped fund more than 100,000 police officers and contributed to one of the largest declines in crime in our nation's history. Yet President Bush has sought to cut the COPS program in every one of his budgets. His current budget slashes the COPS program for 2005, providing only $97 million, a $646 million (87 percent) cut below the 2004 enacted level. Over the long term, his budget assumes the elimination of COPS hiring programs and technology and safe schools initiatives. (House Budget Committee Democratic Caucus, 2/19/04)
George Bush Says He Supports Extension of Assault Weapons Ban, But Fails to Move It. The White House says that on assault weapons, President Bush "supports the current law, and he supports reauthorization of the current law." Yet the White House has done nothing to move an extension. President Bush actually opposed efforts to include an extension of the assault weapons ban as part of a bill he strongly supported to protect gun manufacturers from liability. The Bush Administration said: "The Administration urges the Senate to pass a clean bill, in order to ensure enactment of the legislation this year. Any amendment that would delay enactment of the bill beyond this year is unacceptable." (Knight-Ridder, 4/12/03; Statement of Administrative Policy, 2/24/04; The Hill, 5/12/04)
Without Help From George Bush, War and State Budgets Have Forced Layoffs in Police Departments. While police departments have faced new burdens because of the war on terror, states and cities have had less money to address those burdens because of more than $200 billion in state deficits over the last three years. Without real help from President Bush, cities across America laid off cops. The situation has been made worse by the war on Iraq, which has "required the call-up of huge numbers of reserves, many of whom are cops." (Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, 2/04; USA Today, 12/2/03; Washington Monthly, 9/03)
The Bush Administration Has Failed to Adequately Share Domestic Intelligence Information with Local Police Departments. The FBI and other intelligence agencies have been widely criticized for failing to share information with local police departments who police American cities. A GAO report found, "no level of government perceived the process as effective," and only 13 percent of federal officials and 35 percent of state officials believed that the current level of intelligence sharing between federal, state, and local officials was adequate and effective. "Despite repeated FBI assurances that cops are equal partners in the war against terrorism, local cops say they frequently feel like second-class citizens." (GAO, 8/27/03; Washington Monthly, 9/03)
Bush Proposed Cutting Overtime Pay for Cops. In both the original proposed overtime pay rules and the revised set of rules, the Bush Administration has threatened the overtime pay of thousands of police officers. Under the original Bush plan, "A police officer who walks a beat (manual work) may not lose overtime protection, but a police sergeant who spends significant time supervising two or three other officers will lose overtime protection." Revised rules did not clarify the problem. (Economic Policy Institute, 7/26/03, 5/4/04)
JOHN KERRY WILL STAND BY AMERICA'S POLICE OFFICERS:
Support Police Officers in the Battles Against Crime and Terror. Police departments have faced historic burdens since 9/11, including added overtime work and needs for new training and new communications and safety equipment. While George Bush has failed to support these departments, John Kerry will provide $25 billion in immediate fiscal relief to states and communities- money that states and localities will be able to use to give the tools they need to keep our streets safe and protect against terror. In addition, John Kerry will continue the COPS program which he helped create.
Share Intelligence to Protect America Against Terror. John Kerry believes that appropriate state and local authorities should get access to the 58 national terrorist lists and intelligence officials should work to simplify these lists. In addition, a 24-hour operations center should be established in each state to provide a real time intergovernmental link between local and federal law enforcement. Field-level police would contact this center to determine whether to hold or release suspects based on a check of federal databases. Continue the Assault Weapons Ban. John Kerry believes we can protect the right to bear arms and at the same time keep guns out of the hands of criminals. He stands with law enforcement officers, who put their lives on the line every day, in seeking to ensure that these officers are not outgunned by criminals armed with these weapons of war. John Kerry will renew the assault weapons ban, a measure President Bush claims to support, and will close the gun show loophole.
Support Neighborhood Prosecutor Programs. John Kerry will support police officers and reduce crime by brining prosecutors into high-crime neighborhoods. Kerry's neighborhood prosecutor program will support states that assign prosecutors to specific communities where they work closely with police officers and residents to combat crimes like drug activity, noise violations, and vandalism. The prosecutors' offices will be located in the neighborhoods where they are assigned, and prosecutors will regularly attend community meetings to solicit input.
http://www.usnewswire.com/ |
COPS program, that's one of the biggest jokes in our community. When the whole idea came up, we told Officials, "it's not going to work unless you can get the cops out of the cars" our community was promised this was going to work, well now years later, cops are still in their cars except when they make a stop at the local Krispy Kremes or Starbucks. We said it was a waste of money back then and I still feel it's a waste of money. Yup, let's just keep throwing good money away on a program that I know personally in our community hasn't worked. |
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Craig
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| Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| ASPB wrote: | Like I said Craig,
Poll the union members and don't depend on an endorsement from self-serving leadership. Remember it's the members that vote as individuals and not as a unit. Show me a street cop that won't vote for knocking the heads of thugs and terrorists. |
Did anyone say anything about street cops favoring or not favoring knocking heads of thugs or terrorists?
Do you have anything of substance to present other than some fallacious remarks? |
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Saint
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| hist/student wrote: | Craig 1500 words cut and pasted off the Kerry website. You were doing better with the Salon .ocm drivvel.
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Maybe he should have posted something from Drudge or Limbaugh, something that your childish Dullard Neo Con mind could clearly understand.
Something like "See Georgie run", "See Georgie bring our country to ruin", "See Georgie be voted out of office"
Shut up freak |
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Craig
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| Navymomx2 wrote: |
COPS program, that's one of the biggest jokes in our community. When the whole idea came up, we told Officials, "it's not going to work unless you can get the cops out of the cars" our community was promised this was going to work, well now years later, cops are still in their cars except when they make a stop at the local Krispy Kremes or Starbucks. We said it was a waste of money back then and I still feel it's a waste of money. Yup, let's just keep throwing good money away on a program that I know personally in our community hasn't worked. |
Yea. I have heard that program has not worked so hot in general.
I haven't looked at it so much as to have idea of if it considered best to be mended or scrapped.
DARE is another one of them things that seems to be not worth squat but they don't want to give it up. - I have not heard about it of recent if they have especially improved that. - What I have seen of some of that is folks don't seem to want to give up on propagandizing and do actual education.
Well, I have not seen anything about DARE of recent but I have seen there to be more general push about demonizing marijuana. The most of what that accomplishes is that kids discover the propaganda to be BS and then don't believe what they are told about other things either.
I rather like that idea of cops being out of their cars and more in touch with the community. It seems like it might be good idea that they should even live in the community they patrol - in general. There are certainly communities where the cops might be best to have as much between them and the local folks as much as possible and they might not do well at all trying to live in some slum. - I dunno.
Oh well. I am not a single issue voter and don't pick one thing out of a list to decide how I might vote. Most cops I've known don't either.
LOL - Comes to mind a cop at Folsom - the minimum level 1 Camp Repressa. He was always carrying on at the cons to vote Republican. I asked him once if the briefcase he carried was state property and he had a Vote Republican sticker on it. I forget what he responded. He was cool though. When I had to do him some paperwork I went to some effort to do better than I'd have done for some and cleaned up some of the mess that past clerks had made.
Even cops I know to be generally Democrat are not Democrat when it comes to right to bear arms. Most cops who bothered to mention the issue - prison or street - have thought marijuana should be legal. Of course while it is illegal they will do their job.
Most cops I have seen testify under oath have lied under oath. But they are not but a fraction of cops I have met.
Well, I digressed. - Oh yea. Was about that COPS program. I don't know much about it other than it supposedly not working out all that well and Bush cut some funding to it. Maybe I will give a look into it and see if there be views of how come.
Goodness! Here I am a criminal (ret) and you express more contempt for cops than I feel. I am pretty selective of a few I think to be creeps. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 2:02 am Post subject: |
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| ASPB wrote: |
BTW Craig,
Weren't you the useful fool that was spewing hate for cops and and correctional officers just a few days ago. Your personal legend of being an abused convicted felon? OH! that's the two-day old legend. What's your persona today? Voting street cop?
I don't think so! |
What you say indicates that you read what I said the other day so I just have to say that you are a liar.
I have certainly known and had encounter with some bad cops. Most are just folks with a job though. I am sure that the power thing might attract more of the authoritarian sort who would be badge heavy. There are some bad cops and some bad departments. But on the whole they is folks doing a soldierly sort of work and respectable enough in my view.
I am disappointed that pressures of the job might lead some to lie under oath when they would rather not do so. - But like I said the is folks and the especially bad as well as especially good is minority in about any cross section. - Well, that is what make special special - what is common isn't special. |
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ASPB
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The Best response to these trolls is not to respond. Try it for a couple of days and I think they’ll go away. Just an opinion!
Regards.
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Navymomx2
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| Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 2:09 am Post subject: |
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| Craig wrote: | | Navymomx2 wrote: |
COPS program, that's one of the biggest jokes in our community. When the whole idea came up, we told Officials, "it's not going to work unless you can get the cops out of the cars" our community was promised this was going to work, well now years later, cops are still in their cars except when they make a stop at the local Krispy Kremes or Starbucks. We said it was a waste of money back then and I still feel it's a waste of money. Yup, let's just keep throwing good money away on a program that I know personally in our community hasn't worked. |
Yea. I have heard that program has not worked so hot in general.
I haven't looked at it so much as to have idea of if it considered best to be mended or scrapped.
DARE is another one of them things that seems to be not worth squat but they don't want to give it up. - I have not heard about it of recent if they have especially improved that. - What I have seen of some of that is folks don't seem to want to give up on propagandizing and do actual education.
Well, I have not seen anything about DARE of recent but I have seen there to be more general push about demonizing marijuana. The most of what that accomplishes is that kids discover the propaganda to be BS and then don't believe what they are told about other things either.
I rather like that idea of cops being out of their cars and more in touch with the community. It seems like it might be good idea that they should even live in the community they patrol - in general. There are certainly communities where the cops might be best to have as much between them and the local folks as much as possible and they might not do well at all trying to live in some slum. - I dunno.
Oh well. I am not a single issue voter and don't pick one thing out of a list to decide how I might vote. Most cops I've known don't either.
LOL - Comes to mind a cop at Folsom - the minimum level 1 Camp Repressa. He was always carrying on at the cons to vote Republican. I asked him once if the briefcase he carried was state property and he had a Vote Republican sticker on it. I forget what he responded. He was cool though. When I had to do him some paperwork I went to some effort to do better than I'd have done for some and cleaned up some of the mess that past clerks had made.
Even cops I know to be generally Democrat are not Democrat when it comes to right to bear arms. Most cops who bothered to mention the issue - prison or street - have thought marijuana should be legal. Of course while it is illegal they will do their job.
Most cops I have seen testify under oath have lied under oath. But they are not but a fraction of cops I have met.
Well, I digressed. - Oh yea. Was about that COPS program. I don't know much about it other than it supposedly not working out all that well and Bush cut some funding to it. Maybe I will give a look into it and see if there be views of how come.
Goodness! Here I am a criminal (ret) and you express more contempt for cops than I feel. I am pretty selective of a few I think to be creeps. |
*choke choke* LOL, I think this may be about the only thing you and I can agree on.
I speak from experience concerning the COPS program, I was a neighborhood leader at the time the program was being touted. I could go on and on about thattopic but won't go into that right now. I use to respect the cops, my father had been police reserve years ago, I do know a few good cops, but my distaste turned when I looked down the barrel of a 38 that a man had pulled on my family outside my home. The cops failed to put the info about a gun being used in the report, the guy got off. I only found that out when I contacted the prosecuters office. I could go into a lot more detail concerning my distaste for most cops but I won't since it is neither here nor there. |
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| Navymomx2 wrote: |
COPS program, that's one of the biggest jokes in our community. When the whole idea came up, we told Officials, "it's not going to work unless you can get the cops out of the cars" our community was promised this was going to work, well now years later, cops are still in their cars except when they make a stop at the local Krispy Kremes or Starbucks. We said it was a waste of money back then and I still feel it's a waste of money. Yup, let's just keep throwing good money away on a program that I know personally in our community hasn't worked. |
Found more about that COPS program. Looks pretty scathing with a quick look-over.
Maybe have to find me an organization who vafors Kerry getting elected but wants to send him a group "WTF" in relation to a few issues.
Well, on issues. I think both parties are punks on that right to bear arms thing. That amendment was not written with sporting arms in mind. It does not take a militia to go shoot Bambi. And when that amendment was written any person who could afford a rifle was as well armed as any soldier or cop.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Crime/wm313.cfm |
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The Best response to these trolls is not to respond. Try it for a couple of days and I think they’ll go away. Just an opinion!
Regards.
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| ASPB wrote: | The Best response to these trolls is not to respond. Try it for a couple of days and I think they’ll go away. Just an opinion!
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The Best response to this troll is to keep posting. Try it for a couple of days and I think he will bust a vain. Just an opinion!
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*choke choke* LOL, I think this may be about the only thing you and I can agree on.
I speak from experience concerning the COPS program, I was a neighborhood leader at the time the program was being touted. I could go on and on about that topic but won't go into that right now. I use to respect the cops, my father had been police reserve years ago, I do know a few good cops, but my distaste turned when I looked down the barrel of a 38 that a man had pulled on my family outside my home. The cops failed to put the info about a gun being used in the report, the guy got off. I only found that out when I contacted the prosecutes office. I could go into a lot more detail concerning my distaste for most cops but I won't since it is neither here nor there.[/quote]
Every time but one that I was arrested was cops violating the law they should be upholding. The ones who stole drugs and money are dregs for sure. I don't know if cop liked good coke or needed something to gift to someone he wanted to arrest who didn't have something of his own.
Oh well. Even if he lied right out the gate about cause to pull me over I was guilty enough and copped to the plea offer.
Most of the cops there had to have seen well enough when they manufactured a bit of evidence though. At first they could not find the drugs or anything illegal. So they went back and got my pistol and a clip - LOL - was not the clip to the pistol though - it was clip to the rifle.
Well, they got clip pistol and a bullet back out of trunk of cop car and took pictures of them. - The clips were up front of the car and guns in luggage in the back of hatchback.
Three times arrested and once surrender. Not all that impressive a record. - and one of the arrests was for a warrant near a year after the first arrest for that pistol.
Oops. Almost forgot the most stupid arrest. Damned plastic flare gun with handle broke off such that it amounted to an orange plastic tube. They said it was loaded. Maybe it was. I dunno. Was some crap from dumpster diving.
Some of them cops I don't really count among the especially corrupt though. I suppose they had cause to believe me a bad person and think that they need to take some extralegal measures for what they think is fighting for 'good'.
Oh - the cop who arrested me for the warrant was pretty cool. We had a nice talk on the way to the jail.
I think that parole agents are inherently evil. Must be a job requirement.
I think I would have more cause than many to just decide to hate cops because of some encounters with ********. But I still just meet on and another on his own merits as a person. I have had a lot more friendly enough encounters than just some of the unfriendly I described.
I get the impression that cops get stuck sometimes that they have choice to do the honorable thing or to go along with the peers and give backing to the bad apple who did the dishonorable thing. Well, why snitch on a fellow cop who steals from a known drug dealer and who manufactures evidence to bust someone that he knows did at least something similar .... Maybe that can come to ending a career for sake of it being a thing - cops will deny - about a blue line that one does not cross. Snitching on a crooked cop can lose a cop his career because his peers might figure they cannot trust him. Maybe a lot of them sold out their integrity some time back and one who stands against what they caved to troubles their spirits.
But WTF? They is just people and as corruptible or not as people in general.
Again I would say that the truly corrupt and the ones who would risk much for what they believe are the exceptional folks. The road down is the easier one maybe, but I am not going to condemn a lot of folks for some degree of flaws.
But I am carrying on.
Shame that this place is so full of determined confrontational bitchfest. Hell, there might be two or a few things on which we do not disagree. |
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| Saint wrote: | | ASPB wrote: | The Best response to these trolls is not to respond. Try it for a couple of days and I think they’ll go away. Just an opinion!
Regards. |
The Best response to this troll is to keep posting. Try it for a couple of days and I think he will bust a vain. Just an opinion!
Regards.
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The poor thing is probably just a control freak. Show some compassion and pretend to be manipulated now and again. |
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