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Keith
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| mikest wrote: | | Quote: | | Similarly, recent comments by the likes of Pelosi, Kennedy, Clinton (the Sen.), and others border on sedition, if for no other reason than the fact that there is no longer any local news: the internet and satellite communications make it likely that more foreigners were watching Gore's diatribe than American citizens. And you can bet it will be faithfully trancribed for the Al Jazeera readers. |
I'm sure you were equally outraged by Tom DeLay during the Boznia/Kosovo conflict.
| Quote: | “Bombing a sovereign nation for ill-defined reasons with vague objectives undermines the American stature in the world. The international respect and trust for America has diminished every time we casually let the bombs fly. We must stop giving the appearance that our foreign policy is formulated by the Unabomber.” Floor Statement on Resolution on Peacekeeping Operations in Kosovo, 3/11/99
“I rise today to state that no defense funds should be used for ground forces in Kosovo unless authorized by Congress.” Floor Statement, 4/15/99
“So what they are doing here is they are voting to continue an unplanned war by an administration that is incompetent of [sic] carrying it out. I hope my colleagues will vote against this resolution.” Floor Statement on S. Con. Res. 21, 4/15/99 |
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I personally have no problem with debate and opposition, especially on the floor of Congress where it belongs. Where I get upset is the emotional, half-screaming attacks that are less about public debate and more about trying to attack a man's honor with no proof, even to the extent of accusing the President for deceiving the American public while having had the same position on things like WMD's themselves; or saying he knew about 9/11 and let it happen just so he could pick a fight with Iraq. This goes beyond being disingenuous, this is totally irresponsible; we should expect much more from our leaders and should let them know that we will not tolerate lies and innuendo as a substitue for intelligent, factual debate.
Then, when the debate is carried offshore by folks who we have elected as our leaders, or even when the "debate" takes the form of sound bites spoken here but clearly communicated in sound-bite terms that can be used by our enemies to bolster their positions, then we have moved beyond healthy debate and into the realm of endangering our troops.
To me, that's the difference.
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carpro
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| mikest wrote: | | carpro wrote: | | mikest wrote: | | carpro wrote: | | Wait a minute! I just remembered something...I think. Did the U.S. have a UN resolution to make war in Kosovo? |
So your outrage is reserved for any one other than a Republican making statements like that. |
Take it easy , Mike. You know better than to try to put words in my mouth.
That was a gentle reminder to our friends on the left that believe in "internationalism" that THEIR outrage is selective.
What was in our national interest about Kosovo? Where was /is the UN?
Do we still have forces there? How long will they be there? What is the plan for disengagement? |
Still dodging the question Carpro. WE had soldiers in the field when these statements were made, were you outraged? |
Don't need to dodge the question. Why would anyone be outraged at Delay's remarks when we had no troops on the ground in Kosovo at that time?
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