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War Dog
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To me it matters not if the war on terrorism has led us into Afganistan and/or Iraq. I don't care if these wars in these countries are just, legal, illegal, or not justified. We are in this war now in those nations, and we had all better pull together, and support our troops, no matter what. We cannot pull out, tuck our tails between our legs and run away. That is exactly what our enemies and the terrorists want. It's what they are counting on. They saw our government run from Vietnam, Somilia and other places.
I'd much we fight these terrorists in those nations than in our own nation. But, mark my words, that time is coming. Don't know where or when, but it's coming. At that point, I want to see what all these appeasers and cowards will do. My guess is cry, and shake in their boots, and scream for investigative committees. They'll blame it on everybody else but where the real blame lies, with themselves and the very people that want to not fight these terrorists that want to kill us all, but talk their way out of it, make deals, buy em off, etc...
Come on, wake up to the real world. When terrorists do manage to launch their next series of attacks on our nation and our citizens, it matters not to them who you are, what your political party is, or who you support or do not support. All that will matter to these madmen is that you are an American, and they will kill you no matter what you say or do.
If you cannot see the seriousness of this war on terror, then perhaps you'll be lucky and go fast when these terrorists attack. As for me, I'll go down fighting and with the honor of knowing that I did what I could to stop these madmen.
Duty, Honor, God, Unit, and Country are terms that most of you trolls and hate filled Kerry lovers here will never understand. To you they are just terms, to us, they are a way of life, and an honor to live under them!
War Woof!
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Scott
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 24 May 2004
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Location: Massachusetts
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| Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 5:00 am Post subject: |
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| kyleparr wrote: | | Keep in mind that Reagan and the elder Bush are responsible for both Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein |
Could you please be more specific?
Saddam Hussein came to power before Reagan or the elder Bush. Which is to "blame"?
How is either responsible for Osama? I thought that Bill Clinton had encouraged him after "Blackhawk Down", the African embassies, the Cole?
Oh wait a minute - are your referring to Osama's complaint that we sent troops to Saudi Arabia (the Muslim holy land) to save it from Saddam and, as a result, we defiled it?
Or am I missing something? |
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LewWaters
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Location: Washington State
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I have to say that 9-11 brought the war to us. That Bush has taken it back to them is long overdue, in my opinion. War was declared on us in the mid 90s and we ignored it, until 9-11.
Had Bush not acted as swiftly as he did, the devastation on our country would have most likley been twice what it was. Had Gore, Kerry or Clinton been in office, I can only imagine more planes being hijacked, flown into occupied buildings, while they searched for who to apologize to. |
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PhuCat to Phu Quoc
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Location: California
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| Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| nodefense wrote: | | It will end in the Third World War. As the war intensifies, most of the coalition will be forced to blame the US and quit the fight. Others will covertly join the terrorists in what will become a war against the US and some eastern European countries. The worlds economy will plunge into yet unthinkable depths, as the oil stops flowing. The US will no longer be able to protect the world and total chaos will prevail, truly hell on earth. Or not, who really knows. |
You do realize; that you have described a scenario that contemporary Christians frequently refer to as "The End Times"; don't you?
Survivalists have been trending towards this scenario for as long as I've been watching them, at least for the past 15 years. |
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hist/student
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| Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:32 am Post subject: |
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fortdixlover
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| Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| kyleparr wrote: | Keep in mind that Reagan and the elder Bush are responsible for both Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, not to mention Pinocet and Manuel Noriega.
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Behold the leftist blame-placing on the U.S. for the pathologies of the Arab world and others. By this logic, Roosevelt was "responsible" for the pathologies and violence of Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito, not the ills of fascism, racism and leader deification that existed in those cultures.
Sir, what idiotic teacher or college professor barinwashed you into this line of thought?
When will leftists recover from their pathetic self-hatred?
As GWB said yesterday:
As we fight the war on terror in Iraq and on other fronts, we must keep in mind the nature of the enemy. No act of America explains terrorist violence, and no concession of America could appease it. The terrorists who attacked our country on September the 11th, 2001 were not protesting our policies. They were protesting our existence. Some say that by fighting the terrorists abroad since September the 11th, we only stir up a hornet's nest. But the terrorists who struck that day were stirred up already. If America were not fighting terrorists in Iraq, and Afghanistan, and elsewhere, what would these thousands of killers do, suddenly begin leading productive lives of service and charity? (Laughter.) Would the terrorists who beheaded an American on camera just be quiet, peaceful citizens if America had not liberated Iraq? We are dealing here with killers who have made the death of Americans the calling of their lives. And America has made a decision about these terrorists: Instead of waiting for them to strike again in our midst, we will take this fight to the enemy. |
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ASPB
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| Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| fortdixlover wrote: | | kyleparr wrote: | Keep in mind that Reagan and the elder Bush are responsible for both Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, not to mention Pinocet and Manuel Noriega.
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Behold the leftist blame-placing on the U.S. for the pathologies of the Arab world and others. By this logic, Roosevelt was "responsible" for the pathologies and violence of Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito, not the ills of fascism, racism and leader deification that existed in those cultures.
Sir, what idiotic teacher or college professor barinwashed you into this line of thought?
When will leftists recover from their pathetic self-hatred?
As GWB said yesterday:
As we fight the war on terror in Iraq and on other fronts, we must keep in mind the nature of the enemy. No act of America explains terrorist violence, and no concession of America could appease it. The terrorists who attacked our country on September the 11th, 2001 were not protesting our policies. They were protesting our existence. Some say that by fighting the terrorists abroad since September the 11th, we only stir up a hornet's nest. But the terrorists who struck that day were stirred up already. If America were not fighting terrorists in Iraq, and Afghanistan, and elsewhere, what would these thousands of killers do, suddenly begin leading productive lives of service and charity? (Laughter.) Would the terrorists who beheaded an American on camera just be quiet, peaceful citizens if America had not liberated Iraq? We are dealing here with killers who have made the death of Americans the calling of their lives. And America has made a decision about these terrorists: Instead of waiting for them to strike again in our midst, we will take this fight to the enemy. |
Looks likes the Prez finally found a speech writer that knows what the hell he or she is doing. I saw it on TV yesterday and the delivery was even better than the words. File a copy away. It'll be remembered for a long time.
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hist/student
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Greenhat
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| Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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| kyleparr wrote: |
Keep in mind that Reagan and the elder Bush are responsible for both Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein |
Support that ridiculous statement.
| Quote: | | Also, you are completely ignoring that the Vietnam problem was political and the terrorism problem is religious. Context is everything. |
The terrorism problem is political, always has been (as are most so-called religious wars). It's about power, and that is politics.
Btw, not all terrorist groups are Muslim.
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