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ROTC DAD Lt.Jg.
Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 147
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Edited by Moderator - No Proof provided, - No Post! |
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Marine4life Senior Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 14 May 2004 Posts: 591 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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ROTC are you for real? My God someone needs the oxygen you are wasting. _________________ Helicopter Marine Attack Squadron 169 which is now HMLA-169. They added Huey's to compliment the Cobra effectiveness. When I served we just had Snakes. |
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waltjones PO2
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 392 Location: 'bout 40 miles north of Seattle
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:30 pm Post subject: good info! |
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"There's no question that Iraq was a threat to the people of the United States."
• White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan, 8/26/03
(and all the rest .....)
Very good, ROTC_DAD! All true, and very much in agreement with what the Clintons, Gore, Kerry, the US Congress (for regime change) have all been saying, ad nauseum. But ....
Where's your proof of Cheney saying the threat was imminent? Are those his words or your conclusions? Where's the proof that Condy said there was a link between Sadaam and 9/11? Are those her words, or are they your conclusions? Do you see the problem here? I'll try not to go too fast, but what you say they said is not what they said; try providing exact quotes, like we do with Kerry. If you don't do that, you're just going to continue to irritate most everyone here. You are, of course, welcome to try again ... or at least as long as you're allowed to.
Semper Fi! _________________ Walt Jones (USMC, '65 - '69) It says much about the person who defends a man with no honor. |
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War Dog Captain
Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 517 Location: Below Birmingham Alabama
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | The Administration actually gave 27 different reasons for going to war with Iraq. Among them, Condoleeza Rice stated that al Qaeda and Iraq were involved in 9-11 |
One last time, give us proof that this was said by Condoleeza Rice! No proof, your post gets deleted!
Quote: | War dog,
You tell me to think for myself. Well, I do. When I see a memo which states that the US does not have to abide by US Laws nor the rules of the Geneva Convention regarding the use of torture written by the US Justice Department, I do not then deny that it exists because I would rather not believe it. The memos are easily available. You talk a good game about accountability and thinking for oneself, but you won't accept the truth even when it hits you between the eyes. |
Again, provide proof of this memo. No proof, your post gets deleted. Without proof, it isn't the truth, just more unprovable lies.
Quote: | I had thought at one point that I was speaking to a rational audience. Unfortunately,I find that is not true. You may not like my opinions, but denying facts readily available is simple wishful thinking on your part. |
We all are very rational about the fact that you are telling lies and are wrong!
Quote: | BTW, Condoleeza Rice did indeed say that there was a connection between Iraq, al Qaeda, and the 9-11 attacks. I'd ask you to look it up, but I know you won't. |
It's not up to us to prove you right. That's your job, you made the statement, you have to provide the proof to prove that you are correct. If you do not or can't, then it's just more of the same old lies, false accusations, and DNC/DU propaganda.
It's Way Past Time For The Gloves To Come Off!
FRIGGIN WAR WOOF! _________________ "When people are in trouble, they call the cops.
When cops need help, they call the K-9 unit." |
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Scott Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 1603 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:49 am Post subject: |
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ROTC DAD wrote: | I had thought at one point that I was speaking to a rational audience. Unfortunately,I find that is not true. You may not like my opinions, but denying facts readily available is simple wishful thinking on your part. |
I had thought at one point that I was speaking to a rational audience. Unfortunately,I find that is not true. You may not like my opinions, but denying facts readily available is simple wishful thinking on your part.
Sincerely,
Scott _________________ Bye bye, Boston Straggler! |
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carpro Admin
Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1176 Location: Texas
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:09 am Post subject: |
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Lots of quotes, there.
Still looking for the quote from Condi Rice connecting Iraq to 911. Where's that one, ROTC? _________________ "If he believes his 1971 indictment of his country and his fellow veterans was true, then he couldn't possibly be proud of his Vietnam service." |
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ROTC DAD Lt.Jg.
Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 147
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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carpro Admin
Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1176 Location: Texas
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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ROTC DAD wrote: | carpro,
I need to find the quote as I haven't seen it in awhile, so please bear with me.
For a group that prides itself on its right-thinking (pun intended) and its self-reliance, I find it fascinating none of you seem to be able to do a simple google search. |
Why would I spend time looking for a quote that I believe does not exist? _________________ "If he believes his 1971 indictment of his country and his fellow veterans was true, then he couldn't possibly be proud of his Vietnam service." |
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waltjones PO2
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 392 Location: 'bout 40 miles north of Seattle
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:35 pm Post subject: wrong on 3 (just in this thread) |
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So, ROTC_DAD, you've been wrong about what the 9/11 report said, wrong about what Cheney said and wrong about what Condy said. Have you got another moveon.org fantasy for us? Your tactics are typically left-wing: You make a ridiculous unsupported statement, and then deride us for not helping you find non-exixtent quotes to help back up your fantasy! Man, I sure hope the ROTC has more influence on your kid than you do! Thatisall .... _________________ Walt Jones (USMC, '65 - '69) It says much about the person who defends a man with no honor. |
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MikeWinn Lt.Jg.
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 110 Location: South Carolina
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Frankly, Y'all, I think y'all are wasting your time with ROTCDad. He is typical of the left in this country. He doesn't have to prove he's right, we have to prove he's wrong. geeez Another endearing trait of the left is that they will stay with their stories even when facts refute their beliefs. It is my opinion that ole ROTCDad is a troll and might even have been one of the campus anti-ROTC protestors in the 60's or 70's. Best way to deal with those types, I have found, is just to ignore them. Like a bad dream, he, too, will go away. _________________ LOCK & LOAD!
GunnerMike
Spectre Gunner and 141 FE
Dedicated to Rico. KIA March 14, 1971.
Love ya man. |
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ROTC DAD Lt.Jg.
Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 147
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Right,
Here we go again.
carpro,
Haven't found the statement yet, but did find one from her spokewoman which stated that there were dots before and now there are more dots.
waltjones,
You are correct: Cheney did not say "immediate threat". Rumsfeld did. Cheney simply continues to push the connection between Iraq and 9-11, even after the president has said there is none.
No link provided to prove quote, therefore no post! |
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waltjones PO2
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 392 Location: 'bout 40 miles north of Seattle
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:12 pm Post subject: still spouting BS |
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ROTC_DAD said: Cheney simply continues to push the connection between Iraq and 9-11, even after the president has said there is none.
Prove it; that's another load of crap - Cheney never said there was a connection between Iraq and 9/11! I'd also like to hear exactly what you think Rumsfeld said. Look, if you don't provide quotes, you're just a troll. After numerous attempts to state baseless claims, you have been asked many times to back up what you say. You rarely do, and frankly I don't see why you're still around. You are exhibiting all the irrational characteristics of a DU troll. I'm really getting tired of you taking up space here with your lies - and yes, that's what they are until you back them up!
Thatisall ..... _________________ Walt Jones (USMC, '65 - '69) It says much about the person who defends a man with no honor. |
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waltjones PO2
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 392 Location: 'bout 40 miles north of Seattle
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:18 pm Post subject: Kerry agreed with Rumsfeld |
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Some have argued that the nuclear threat from Iraq is not imminent - that Saddam is at least 5-7 years away from having nuclear weapons. I would not be so certain. And we should be just as concerned about the immediate threat from biological weapons. Iraq has these weapons."
• Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 9/18/02
Sounds pretty reasonable to me, and it doesn't jibe (as usual) with what ROTC_DAD originally claimed he and Condy said. This statement is also remarkably similar to what Kerry said in 2002 (?): "If you don't believe Sadaam Hussein has a nuclear weapons program, then you shouldn't vote for me". Interesting .....
Semper Fi! _________________ Walt Jones (USMC, '65 - '69) It says much about the person who defends a man with no honor. |
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ROTC DAD Lt.Jg.
Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 147
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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waltjones,
Let's see; you stated that no one said that Iraq posed an "imminent threat." I countered that someone had. I may have had the wrong administration official, but from the posts of the quotes we now know that more than one official had called the threat "imminent," "immediate," and "mortal."
So now I'm wrong because I was right and you were wrong. |
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waltjones PO2
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 392 Location: 'bout 40 miles north of Seattle
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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ROTC_DAD says I said: Let's see; you stated that no one said that Iraq posed an "imminent threat."
There you go again; you can't even get that right. Show me where I said exactly the above. Misquoting me should be cause for you to be disappeared out of this forum!!! I'm really getting tired of your lies and inaccuracies. Keep it up .... _________________ Walt Jones (USMC, '65 - '69) It says much about the person who defends a man with no honor. |
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