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Me#1You#10
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Sweep, sweep, sweep...
| KeithNolan wrote: |
3.) Can we agree, based on Kerry's top-notch efficiency reports, that he was regarded highly by his superiors in Vietnam? |
As Kerry's efficiency reports are far from top-notch, can we agree that he was regarded as being sub-par by his superiors in Vietnam?
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sparky
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| Quote: | | Are you here to explain why Kerry buried Page 1 of LCDR Streuli's fitness report on Kerry's tenure with Coastal 13 in Cat Lo? |
Nope. I can smell bullcrap a mile off and this one reminds me too much of those smears of Clinton involving the murder of small children. I remember trying to debate people who believed that insanity and they just wouldn't budge.
I think they've since moved on to John Kerry. |
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Me#1You#10
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| Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 7:55 am Post subject: |
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| sparky wrote: | | I can smell bullcrap a mile off... |
Really? That's a remarkable ability. But, I must admit, you DO exhibit a rather profound degree of intimacy with the subject matter.
Always a pleasure to have you pop...errrrr...roll in Sparky. |
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Me#1You#10
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| Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Sweep, sweep, sweep...
| KeithNolan wrote: |
3.) Can we agree, based on Kerry's top-notch efficiency reports, that he was regarded highly by his superiors in Vietnam? |
| KeithNolan wrote: | Sorry for sounding like a smart-ass, but I've finally had it up to here with the haters, liars, idealogues, and know-nothings here who feel comfortable spitting on Kerry's honorable combat service and spitting on those young combat veterans who joined the Vietnam Veterans Against the War.
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Having their collective honorable service denigrated by the opportunistic, self-absorbed, self-serving liar that Kerry embodies is a subject about which this website's founders are, regretfully, all too familiar.
And spare us the righteous indignation over spittle wars. You and your fellow loogie-hurlers could knock out a gnat's eye at a thousand metres. |
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hist/student
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| Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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retracted
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Me#1You#10
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Sweep, sweep, sweep...
| poirierwilliam wrote: | | Me#1You#10 wrote: | Mr. Nolan...
Perhaps, as an historian, you might assist me in understanding some gaps in Mr. Kerry's service record?
1. Mr. Kerry was re-assigned 3 times in a 4 month period. In your experience with thousands of veterans, does that strike you as being a rather unusually high rate of re-assignment? Has that been explained to your satisfaction, or were you aware of that fact or perhaps ever considered it? Is it addressed in Brinkley's book? Can you suggest a plausible rationale?
2. Why was Kerry transferred from his original unit, Coastal 14, after only 18 days? Was that a training assignment only? Or could his Purple Heart request 4 days prior to transfer have had more of an impact on his tenure
3. When and why was Kerry re-assigned from Coastal 13 back to Coastal Division 11 when a superior officer, whose objection to Kerry's performance, purportedly, had been instrumental in his initial transfer from that unit, was still serving in that unit?
4. Why isn't the date of Kerry's THIRD transfer from Coastal 13 BACK to Coastal 11 documented on his website? Wouldn't his military records contain orders assigning him to that unit on a specific date?
5. Why haven't his various transfer orders been made public? |
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Thanks for the reminder...and you can forget to answer these as well....
6. Why does Kerry's website misidentify the location of Coastal 13 in Cam Ranh Bay instead of Cat Lo where it was actually located?
7. Why hasn't Kerry provided the after-action reports for his period of service with Coastal 13, Cat Lo?
8. Was Kerry's being "credited" with the killing of 20 vietcong the impetus behind Kerry's THIRD transfer in less than 8 WEEKS?
9. What happened in Cat Lo?
10. Why is Page 1 of LCDR Streuli's Kerry fitness report missing?
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DougReese
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Me#1You#10 wrote: | Sweep, sweep, sweep...
| poirierwilliam wrote: | | Me#1You#10 wrote: | Mr. Nolan...
Perhaps, as an historian, you might assist me in understanding some gaps in Mr. Kerry's service record?
1. Mr. Kerry was re-assigned 3 times in a 4 month period. In your experience with thousands of veterans, does that strike you as being a rather unusually high rate of re-assignment? Has that been explained to your satisfaction, or were you aware of that fact or perhaps ever considered it? Is it addressed in Brinkley's book? Can you suggest a plausible rationale?
2. Why was Kerry transferred from his original unit, Coastal 14, after only 18 days? Was that a training assignment only? Or could his Purple Heart request 4 days prior to transfer have had more of an impact on his tenure
3. When and why was Kerry re-assigned from Coastal 13 back to Coastal Division 11 when a superior officer, whose objection to Kerry's performance, purportedly, had been instrumental in his initial transfer from that unit, was still serving in that unit?
4. Why isn't the date of Kerry's THIRD transfer from Coastal 13 BACK to Coastal 11 documented on his website? Wouldn't his military records contain orders assigning him to that unit on a specific date?
5. Why haven't his various transfer orders been made public? |
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Thanks for the reminder...and you can forget to answer these as well....
6. Why does Kerry's website misidentify the location of Coastal 13 in Cam Ranh Bay instead of Cat Lo where it was actually located?
7. Why hasn't Kerry provided the after-action reports for his period of service with Coastal 13, Cat Lo?
8. Was Kerry's being "credited" with the killing of 20 vietcong the impetus behind Kerry's THIRD transfer in less than 8 WEEKS?
9. What happened in Cat Lo?
10. Why is Page 1 of LCDR Streuli's Kerry fitness report missing? |
I'm looking forward to someone answering the questions above. They are of such import that the answers might just derail his bid for the presidency.
Doug |
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ASPB
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Your right Doug,
I'm sending them to Byron Your at the National Review who has been doing a lot of research on the matter. Maybe he can talk to Hibbard and Elliot.
Regards.
Tom
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DougReese
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| ASPB wrote: | Your right Doug,
I'm sending them to Byron Your at the National Review who has been doing a lot of research on the matter. Maybe he can talk to Hibbard and Elliot.
Regards.
Tom |
I was kidding. You knew that didn't you?
The general public could care less about this kind of nitpicking. It might even irritate some of them, so in that regard, I encourage it 
Doug |
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ASPB
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| DougReese wrote: | | ASPB wrote: | Your right Doug,
I'm sending them to Byron Your at the National Review who has been doing a lot of research on the matter. Maybe he can talk to Hibbard and Elliot.
Regards.
Tom |
I was kidding. You knew that didn't you?
The general public could care less about this kind of nitpicking. It might even irritate some of them, so in that regard, I encourage it
Doug |
Actually, I think you'd be surprised about the level of public interest in this. Character matters to the American Voter and this goes to character.
Remember Gary Hart? 
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Me#1You#10
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 3:16 am Post subject: |
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| DougReese wrote: | | The general public could care less about this kind of nitpicking. |
Why YES! Doug, you HAVE got it...and, perhaps, they could care more if and when the media awakens from it's "hero" stupor and actually begins to critically evaluate just the already campaign-vetted documentation.
One respected journalist with the courage to look beneath the veneer...that's all it will take, and Kerry's carefully constructed political persona will fall like the house of cards that it is. That journalist is out there...somewhere...and I do so look forward to the emergence of the REAL Kerry story. Should be a hoot.
By the way, anyone know of any FOIA filings in progress to access the after-action reports of Coastal 13? |
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