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Jeremy Eaton
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Ouch.
I heard wrong then. (It would have been wiser to have found those links)
Although Libya is certainly acting in it's own interest. Not for it's safety, although that may be a factor, but for lucrative oil contracts. Somehow I wonder if Libyans are busy putting together dirty bombs somewhere in Morroco though...just conjecture.
There are two possibilities here. One, is Gaddafi doesn't have really very much. Whatever he has temporarily given up he can acquire at later time, once the oil contracts become lucrative. However, that does mean that a potential threat is potentially mitigated.
It's ironic that now we trust the weapons inspectors (in Libya/Iran), and we didn't when they went into Iraq.
Although there may be positive spin in these areas. In this era of preemption, it makes nations that actually have nukes a lot more dangerous. |
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War Dog
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Location: Below Birmingham Alabama
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | It's ironic that now we trust the weapons inspectors (in Libya/Iran), and we didn't when they went into Iraq. |
There is two sides to this.
Some did trust the inspectors in Iraq, and some didn't. Just as in so many nations in the world, including some places in our own, money always greases the palms of the right people. Were there any bribes, I suppose so, but I can't prove it. Look at that US/UN inspector, I can't remember his name (Scott something), but he quit as lead or chief inspector, and proclaimed how dirty Iraq was, hidden WMD, no cooperation from Iraq, and so on. Yet a year or so later, after money was put in his pocket because of some story about producing a documentary about Iraq, he was 180 out of his original statments just a year or so before.
Remember that the majority of these inspectors were from the UN, and we have all seen how honorable the UN is, i.e., 'the oil for food' scandal. The UN is totally ate up with corruption. They screw up everything they get involved in, their 'peace'keeping troops are constantly involved in and being accused of bribery, shaking down the local merchants, murder, rape, assaults, war crimes, etc... Every country they get involved in is in far worse shape after the UN than before.
Now, on the other side, how much of the truthful information was really untrue, and visa versa? How much disception was involved by the Iraqi's? We know that the Iraqi's had hidden informants and spies inside the UN Inspectors headquarters and offices. Do you think that some of the places the UN inspectors found were planted there by the Iraqi's to be purposely found? Or how many places that the UN inspectors went to and found nothing, actually had been moved beforehand because of these spies and informants?
There is alot of things that we still do not know yet. Things we (and by we I mean the US, England, Europe, UN, and these nations intelligence services) do not know if they were the truth or lies. Maybe one day in the next year or so, the real truth will come out. Who knows?
Do you think we should trust the inspectors if they ever get to go back into Iran and North Korea?????????
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GoophyDog
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Location: Washington - The Evergreen State
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Hey, I'm not saying to trust them, nor am I saying to distrust them. What I pointed out was the simple fact that Iran is not only allowing but encouraging inspections - something that did not happen until we paid our visit to Iraq.
As for the Iraq inspections. Please recall the number of times the inspectors left the country and came back. Were they inept? No, I don't believe so.
What was then and remains inept is the U.N. in enforcing their own requirements and sanctions. The inspections were just one of the conditions of surrender back in 91. A sad commentary is that in all of the 11 years the only real condition enforced was the one the U.S. and Britain were directly involved in, to wit, the no fly zones.
I personally believe that the inspectors themselves were honorable men trying to do their job under very difficult circumstances (well, with the exception of that one U.S. traitorous prostitute who sold himself to the highest bidding news channel). Those people were unfortunately left out on the end of a limb with absolutely no backing from the very organization that sent them there.
Can we trust the inspectors? I believe so. BUT, only so far as we can trust the organization that oversees them. |
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MikeWinn
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TRUST, BUT VERIFY!
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