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m_drummond · Lt.Jg. Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 129 Location: Dallas TX

Sorry if this has already been posted. Just found it myself. Not exactly a household name, but hey, anyone can join the effort.

http://www.in-forum.com/articles/index.cfm?id=71381&section=Opinion
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Bean Counter · Seaman Recruit Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 6

I thought that the Naval Reserve either had you for 4 yrs active and 2 yrs Inactive (no Drill, just let us know your address) or 2 yrs active and 4 yrs of drill. I realize that we don't have a specific document that links Kerry to this - but I thought JFnK's non-drill status was very common.

Dimsdale · Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 1:26 pm Post subject:

openfish24 · Lt.Jg. Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 140

enlisted active duty is four years active 2 years inactive (no drilling)

If you join the reserves as Kerry did I do not know what his obligation was.

BuffaloJack · Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 1:40 pm Post subject:

I think that the reserve policy had some flexibility in it on a case by case basis. I served 1 year active, 6 years drill, 2 years active and 2 years drill and I have friends who served 3A & 3D and 2A & 4D. So almost anything in the way of a mix was possible.

m_drummond · Lt.Jg. Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 129 Location: Dallas TX

To me its not important if drilling was required or not. The issue is keeping the focus on Kerry and pumping up the volume. I'll take anything I can get.
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margie · Seaman Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 187

is it ok to email that letter to some of the news media? I couldn't find a way to ask this question at the site.

PigBoatAndy · Former Member Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Posts: 37

My experience at two local Naval Reserve Centers was that if an officer had 2+ years of active duty - there was no requirement to drill (if you didn't drill it might keep you from making SelRes LCDR).

At the two local Reserve Centers only about 15% of the officers getting off of active duty affiliated with a drilling unit.

We had one real "hippie" LT who was frankly in it for the drill pay - he was a PhD candidate and needed the money; in fact with drill pay and the GI Bill and a minimal Teaching Assistantship - you didn't have to borrow to get through grad school.

But about 85% never affiliated with the SelRes.

About Kerry going to Paris to negotiate with the VC - the UCMJ only attaches during drill. We had a kid who was dealing drugs during the week - but not during drill and not at the ResCen - and the JAG Corps guys said "No jurisdiction."

By about '72-'73 the whole Reserve Admin shop was pretty sloppy. Ghosts showed up on the RUPPERT who never drilled - and it was impossible to drop them from the RUPPERT. (This was before the credit cards).

Also, unless you had a really hard nosed CO-XO-Admin Chief- CMAA team there was really no bullet proof way to know if the signatures on the RUPPERT were for real. That was a reason that we went to the credit with eye ball accountability.

IMHO - in the early 70's the Reserves and Guard were not really mobilizable to do what these kids are doing now.