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Debs · Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:02 pm Post subject: "Fair Game" - Bill Kristol

I think this was Kerry's Deaniac moment. He not only jumped the shark, he's being devoured by it. At least I hope so. Smile

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/782vkhgk.asp

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kate · Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:11 pm Post subject:

from the link

SooZQ · Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:34 pm Post subject:

Gotta love that Bill Kristol! Razz

On the nose!
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Debs · Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:21 pm Post subject:

Kate,

I think Kerry thinks we are all as stupid as his koolaid drinkers are as he can fool them all the time, and with the MSM in the tank for him, he is never held accountable for anything.

But I think the mistake he made in mentioning Mary Cheney may just be the nail in the coffin of his campaign, because the reaction to his comment was not an intellectual reaction, but a visceral, emotional, gut reaction of disgust, disbelief, and revulsion. We knew when we heard it that it was mean, nasty, and was intended to be derogatory and negative, and we don't like the personal life of a candidate's child being used in a predatory way as campaign fodder - as "fair game."

Mrs. Edwards comments, Mary Cahill's comments, as well as John Edwards comments last week and Kerry's comments in the debate, prove this was a calculated attack. And I think actually Cheney might have opened the door for Kerry to think it was okay to mention Mary Cheney - bad calculation on the Kerry campaign's part. When Cheney "thanked" Edwards for his kind comments about his family, I think the Kerry campaign actually thought Cheney meant it - failing to catch the very subtle sarcasm in Cheney's response. So, unwittingly, they thought they could run with it again, and were not expecting the backlash - what dummies - talk about the gang that can't shoot straight.

And the problem the campaign now has is they are trying to excuse, explain, and spin with "reasonable" explanations an attack that people reacted to "emotionally" - and it won't work. Kerry cannot connect emotionally with people so there is no way out of this for him - even if he apologized now, it would look insincere, calculated, and opportunistic. The real Kerry has been exposed by Kerry himself.

On Fox this morning, a media analyst who is often on Fox - forgot his name, sorry - said that Kerry was winning the third debate - Shocked

?????? - until he made that dumb calculated comment, and that it actually could be his downfall as he said many times, undecideds will break at the last for the most likable candidate, and this comment really hurt Kerry on likability. I hope he is right, as this will not go away and the more that Kerry and his kookaid drinkers spin this, the worse they look. We all know what we felt when we heard it, and nothing will erase that reaction of disgust. It was a smarmy - I love that word Smile

- thing to do and everyone knows it.

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Debs · Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:28 pm Post subject:

Sorry, I meant KOOLAID drinkers instead of KOOKAID drinkers - although if the shoe fits - and on second thought... okay, I admit, POSSIBLY a Freudian slip. Wink

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joeshero · Commander Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 321 Location: Midwest

RIGHT ON!! I like this part:

"WAS JOHN KERRY born a shameless and ruthless opportunist, or did he choose to become one? In a way, who cares? Who knows how John Kerry became who he is? What is clear is that he is, as Dick Cheney put it, "a man who will do and say anything to get elected." And what is equally clear is that he shouldn't be elected president of the United States."
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theresa · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:07 am Post subject:

When I heard Kerry say the "Cheney's daughter is a lesbian" remark during the third debate, I immediately thought two things: This slimy, unctuous, despicable opportunist will say anything to get elected AND this remark will grow "legs" and hurt Kerry big time. Considering how many times I've heard this story discussed and debated, I believe both of my assumptions were proven correct.

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Jim T. · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:44 am Post subject:

Integrity, integrity, integrity. And he still has none!!!!
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jataylor11 · Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:50 pm Post subject:

I wonder if Kerry's mommy cringed when he made these remarks.