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fortdixlover

Does anyone have any data on the stations that cancelled showing the SwiftVets ad after the threats by the DNC/Kerry campaign lawyers?

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captjenk · Seaman Recruit Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 7

I am new to the site. I am not sure whether what you did is going to do more harm than good. You have Sen. McCain (a respected republican) speaking out. I think in the long run this may backk fire.

scotty61 · LCDR Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 419 Location: Glyndon MN

I disagree. Politically speaking, McCain's position helps the GOP deflect the Dems smear attacks while the ad continues to get the message out to the voters. It won't stop them, they're the masters of political limbo (how low can you go?) but it makes it hard for them to score a hit. Plus, the more they whine the more attention the ad gets.

Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

I'm sure that McCain never foresaw the possibility of a moveon.org coming out of the campaign reform law he co-sponsored.

If he's going to denounce the Swifts for their ad, then he needs to be denouncing the other 527 ads on both sides.

I appreciated the Swift's response to McCain's condemnation: (emphasis mine)

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scotty61 · LCDR Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 419 Location: Glyndon MN

I heard on the radio yesterday that McCain was campaigning with Bush and Bush made that point.

jack white · Seaman Joined: 04 Aug 2004 Posts: 179

I would like to see the original question in this thread answered. How many, if any, broadcast stations have refused to run the commercial due to the threat of litigation?

fortdixlover · Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 12:52 am Post subject:

Dabba55 · Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 1:19 am Post subject:

Unfortunately, the first story the media goes with becomes the "truth"...so, these SBVs will be written off as angry vets, not truth tellers. The Kerry campaign knows the only traction is if the ad keeps running...so they're trying to derail it before it picks up steam. If the SBVs can raise enough money to keep it running, the media won't be able to ignore it. The vets themselves are very credible. Kerry's people don't want them seen on tv outside the ad.

Make no mistake, this is terrible for the Kerry campaign. That's why they're working so hard to derail it. As for McCain, this plays nicely to his "integrity quotient" which he loves, moving back and forth across the aisle but mainly, he's furious that everyone is flagrantly ignoring McCain-Feingold. He DID speak out loudly and angrily against the Kerry 527s.

SharpTalons · Ensign Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 57

Michael Savage had Kerry's boat-gunner Steve Gardner on with him for about a half-hour today. They went through a detailed recount of what he saw as the gunner of Kerry's vessel. It was thoroughly comprehensive. From Kerry's indecisiveness as boat commander to his embellishment of battle reports, Gardner credibly detailed what he witnessed.

Dabba55 · Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 1:40 am Post subject:

That's the thing, if you hear these guys interviewed, close questioned, they are devastating. Very credible.

Tony · Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 2:28 am Post subject:

I found this at http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/unfit_tv.html:

Only One TV Station Caves to Pro-Kerry Pressure

August 6, 2004 -- Despite enormous pressure from Democratic and pro-Kerry sources (including DNC and Kerry lawyers), only one TV station has caved in, deciding not to run the blistering anti-Kerry ad produced by the Swift Vote Veterans for Truth. The now well-known ad counters Sen. Kerry's Vietnam "War Hero" status.

The sole station to refuse the advertisement from the “527” group is WBAY, ABC Channel 2, in Green Bay, Wisconsin, a key battle state.

In an interview with HUMAN EVENTS, WBAY President and General Manager Don Carmichael confirmed that the station will not be running the ad "on advice of counsel."

Pressed on the substance of their lawyers' advice, Mr. Carmichael stated that after reviewing the affidavits of the veterans, seeing the commercial, and hearing the pro-Kerry "counter-claims," his station decided to refuse the ad.

Mr. Carmichael declined to elaborate on the "counter-claims," including whether the threatening letter from DNC and Kerry lawyers or today’s Boston Globe article were among those claims. Carmichael also stated that the station does not plan to review its decision.
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To air your views on WBAY’s decision to ban the ad, call them at 920-432-3331 or email them at wbay@wbay.com.
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Dabba55 · Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 2:49 am Post subject:

The lawyer must be in the Kerry camp...or an idiot. There is nothing libelous about the ad...otherwise NO negative campaign ads could ever be run. This book is going to be a runaway bestseller. A chapter was released today, "The Purple Heart Hunter"...Holy Cow, I read it online. There were several witnesses in the room to the incident Kerry was kicked out of the room, told to get lost for asking for papers to be put in for the first purple heart he later received. They thought that was the end of it. Didn't know he actually received a medal for the "tweezer wound" until the Democratic primary this year. They were shocked. They are demanding to see the paper work on these awards. Kerry told Tim Russert he'd release it then never did. He released the certificates, but not the applications. These guys want to know who signed the papers. Kerry keeps saying he's happy to release the papers, then never does. The SBVs are genuinely mystified as to who/how/why/when the papers were submitted.

Theresa Alwood · Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 2:53 am Post subject:

Tony

Thanks for the link. I did e-mail them....I think we all need to do that. Swiftvets have the right to their ad...Keep up the great work guys!!!!
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