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[ArogantMan]

I am a US Marine who served in Vietnam with 3/1 during 1969-1970. My older brothers Franklin (1968 -1970), and Stewart (1967) also served with the US Marines in Northern I Corps in Vietnam and all as grunts. My youngest son David is currently completing BCT at Ft. Benning Georgia, whereupon he will then attend OCS.

I have seen your advertisement on television, and I have to ask you this. What kind of outfit where you guys running down there in the Delta? Your statements and your deeds today certainly do not reflect a cohesive combat unit with high morale. I assume that your commanding officer must be responsible for a lot of this. Is it possible that he also appears in this advertisement? Does he agree with all that you are doing, denigrating a member of your unit for political purposes? Is it not true that your Commanding Officer, would had to have endorsed Lt. (JG) Kerry's recommendations for his Bronze Star Medals and Silver Star Medal.

I understand that Lt. Cmdr. Elliot has since retracted all his statements about Lt. (JG) Kerry's character while he served with him in Vietnam. In deed, it was Lt. Cmdr. Elliot's own recommendation that earned LT. (JG) Kerry's Silver Star Medal. How do you guys reconcile that?

You speak of Lt. (JG) Kerry as if he was a liar when he spoke to the Congressional Committee in 1972. That he was solely responsible for painting the Vietnam Veteran and his shipmates in a bad light. Are you trying to suggest that there where no atrocities committed by our troops in Vietnam? No "Free Fire Zones", No "County Fair" operations that resulted in burnt out villages and dead livestock? No deaths of civilians and prisoners?

You fail to mention however that Kerry and his group the "Vietnam Veterans Against the War" (VVAW) totaled over 30,000 combat veterans in 1972 and that VVAW was instrumental in getting the US Government to acknowledge the problems associated with many of us. Problems associated with Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome, and Agent Orange and that because of those efforts many veterans today are receiving health and financial benefits from our government.

You conveniently fail to mention that it was John Kerry and John McCain that went to Vietnam to work with the government in Vietnam to find answers to those heroes that were "Missing in Action". That as a result of their efforts many of their remains where brought back to their families where they belong, and in so doing help return our relationship with Vietnam to one where we earned their cooperation.

John O’Neil, what a piece of work that guy is. He gets his 15 minutes of fame by debating John Kerry on the Merv Griffith Show back in 1972. He did this on behalf of one of the most corrupt administrations in US History. An administration whose leader President Nixon became the only U.S. President to leave office in disgrace. Now I see that horse's ass is still out there trying to extend his 15 minutes of fame to thirty minutes by doing the same thing on behalf of an administration whose ethics are being question by at least half the electorate. An administration whose members for the most part did their best to avoid even going to Vietnam. I find this shameful.

I believe what you are doing is unprecedented in the history of U. S. Presidential Campaigns. I do not believe any US Veteran has ever allowed politics to transcend his service, or the respect he had for his brother's service. They may have disagreed with a candidate, they may not have like him when they served with him, but no one has ever stooped as low as you all have.

I served honorably in Vietnam, and have felt my service was important and that the legacy of all of our service was not to necessarily stop the spread of communism, but to insure that senseless wars where never fought again. I thought it was our duty to insure that we would never send our youth off to distant shores to spill their blood, over a war that was not necessary. Look where we are now.

And here you guys are. You allowed mere politics to transcend our honor, and our legacy. You denigrate to the world another Vietnam Veteran. A veteran you served with no less. You bring shame and disgrace on your unit, your commanding officer, the US Navy, and all the other Veterans who served in Vietnam many of whom do not agree with you. You are the ones that sold us all out, not John Kerry. You are the real traitors.

Barry DeLong, USMC
RVN 1969-70

[Navy_Navy_Navy]

Hello, Arrogant Man,

[Butch]

Navy_Navy_Navy

[Sgt-Keeper]

Arogantman:
Go back & read the history of this group, the lies Kerry told, the problems he created and then try to reconcile your comments with the truth. 30,000 Viet Nam Veterans? Can't you read? Most of those supporting Kerry then were either never in Nam or were never in the military. Read "Stolen Valor", get up to speed before you post showing your ignorance of the issues & facts. What was your MOS, Company & Platoon? I'n not saying that I don't believe that you were in-country, but I knew a Terry DeLong over there. Any relation?
Semper Fi
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[waltjones]

ArogantMan: I can't believe that you, a Marine, can support Kerry. I guess you must be one of those Marines who committed atrocities on a day to day basis, known to all levels of command, etc. How did it feel to torture those civilians like Kerry said you did? Kerry's a liar, a traitor and a slanderer of his comrades-in-arms. Lastly, how can you support someone responsible for mocking the Iwo Jima memorial? You either don't know much about Kerry's past, or just don't care; some Marine - see below about honor!


An Insult To All Marines

The picture on the cover of John Kerry's book The New Soldier resembles the scene depicted in that famous photo of the Marines raising the flag on Mt. Suribachi. I believe that VVAW and Kerry were deliberately mocking that symbolically important event. It is apparent that the most beloved and reproduced photograph in American history - one that helped inspire our soldiers, sailors and Marines to victory in a tough campaign for our very existence and can now be found in every Marine Corps boot classroom - never made much of an impression on John Kerry, and that is still true to this day. If not, he would have apologized for such a grave insult to his country, to all who fought in WW2, and to all United States Marines. I call on all veterans, but especially ALL Marines, to avenge this insult by ensuring that John Kerry not only loses in November, but loses so badly that his political career is destroyed. That's my mission; how about you? Semper Fi! Walt (USMC ’65-’69)


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[waltjones]

BTW, ArogantMan, Elliot refuted Kranisch's interview; see the applicable thread in this forum. It pays to stay informed - you obviously haven't. Thatisall ....
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[RNO]

I am new here but a Viet Nam Vet also..I have been arguing with indivduals like arrogantman on the net for years...They do not understand reason nor do they care...You will find that many who claim to be vets are not vets...They think they can get their point across better that way...I do not know if he is or not but this Vet thanks to all of you who are standing up to the likes of Kerry...Thanks for your service and thanks for this site...I hope to bring other vets with like minds here to add support..Wes
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[ASPB]

Bring a few with unlike minds. We'd like to convert a few of the misguided!
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[RNO]

I have been fighting with some of them on other sites for along time..It does no good..Many are young and seem to not know much about this Country nor the men who have served..I am not sure it would do any good to invite them here at all...Thanks again for this site and those here who have served...Wes
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[fortdixlover]

[Navy_Navy_Navy]

It's possible that George Elliott's refutation hit the wire so soon after Kranish's article that Kranish was dead in the water.

AFter Elliott's refutation, then the story was about KRANISH being a campaign-paid writer.

That's two major PR bungles in 24 hours. No wonder we're seeing an influx of people who object to SBVFT.... desperation, anyone?
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