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baldeagle
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:36 am    Post subject: American veterans congratulate Viet Nam on liberation annive Reply with quote

Hard to believe that these folks are spouting their crap still after 30 years.
Wonder who's funding these losers.

04/29/2005 -- 14:23(GMT+7)
vnagency.com

Washington (VNA) - The Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) has sent to the Washington-based Viet Nam Embassy a letter congratulating the Vietnamese people on the 30th anniversary of the end of the US war in Viet Nam.

The letter reads:

"As we approach the thirtieth anniversary of the end of the US war in Viet Nam, we in Viet Nam Veterans Against the War wish to send greetings and best wishes to the people of Viet Nam. We celebrate with you the success of your struggle for liberation from foreign domination.

On April 30, 1975, the effort on the part of successive US government to deny Viet Nam national independence and reunification came to an end. Thirty years later, we who served in the US armed forces during that war remember all the fallen on all sides, the millions of Vietnamese, the tens of thousands of Americans and soldiers from other countries, all of whom were victims of an illegal and immoral war.

The whole thing here
http://www.vnagency.com.vn/NewsA.asp?LANGUAGE_ID=2&CATEGORY_ID=29&NEWS_ID=149036
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What else would we expect from Communists but more Communist drivel?

Seems I remember there being a cease-fire signed and the “victorious” North violated that cease-fire to overrun and oppress the South. Is that what VVAW calls a moral and legal event?

What is the legacy that VVAW is so proud of?

Vietnam today

By Jeff Jacoby, Globe Staff | August 8, 2004

WITH THE presidential race generating so much talk of John Kerry's Vietnam record, one could almost forget that "Vietnam" is not just the name of a war that ended 30 years ago. It is also the name of a country of 82 million human beings -- who live under one of the most repressive dictatorships on Earth. Whatever political value there may be in recalling the Vietnam of years gone by, it is the people of Vietnam today who really need our attention.

Vietnam Today

9 Vietnamese Believers Sentenced for Christian Activities

Posted by Newsdesk, July 10, 2003, 02:42 PM

Vietnam has sentenced nine members of a banned branch of Christianity to 18 to 30 months in prison for their alleged actions against the state. The nine members of the Montegnard ethnic minority founded a branch of Dega Protestantism, a type of evangelical Christianity followed by many Montegnards in Vietnams central highlands, in April 2001.

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Vietnam: New Documents Reveal Escalating Repression
A Human Rights Watch Briefing Paper
April 2003


Human Rights Watch has received credible first-hand reports of an escalation of repression by Vietnamese authorities against the ethnic minorities known as Montagnards in Vietnam's Central Highlands.1 Human rights violations have continued unabated since protests for land rights and religious freedom began in February 2001.

In addition, dozens and perhaps hundreds of Montagnards have tried and failed to obtain protection and asylum from the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) in Cambodia. Since the beginning of this year, more than 100 Montagnards have been forcibly returned from Cambodia to Vietnam.

Escalating Repression

RE-EDUCATION IN UNLIBERATED VIETNAM:
LONELINESS, SUFFERING AND DEATH


THE INDOCHINA NEWSLETTER
October-November 1982

Ten years ago, demonstrations were held around the world to
protest political repression and imprisonment in South Vietnam.
Seven years ago, Communist forces completed their conquest of
South Vietnam. In June of 1975, the new regime ordered hundreds
of thousands of Vietnamese to report to authorities for
"re-education". Many are still held in the camps today, but the
world is mostly silent on their plight.

"Re-education" means different things to different people. To the
Hanoi regime and its more vocal defenders abroad, re-education is
seen as a very positive way to integrate the former enemy into
the new society. It is, according to Communist leaders of
Vietnam, an act of mercy, since those in the camps deserve the
death penalty or life imprisonment.(1). The former prisoners, on
the other hand, see re-education from quite a different
perspective.

RE-EDUCATION IN UNLIBERATED VIETNAM

Reeducation in Postwar Vietnam:

When helicopters plucked the last Americans off the roof
of the U.S. Embassy in Saigon in 1975, countless Vietnamese
who had worked for the Americans remained behind. Many
were arrested and sent to "reeducation" camps, where they
faced forced labor, indoctrination sessions, and severe
privation.

Reeducation in Postwar Vietnam (A book advertisement)

Isn't that some legacy to be proud of? Who else but Communists could be proud of that accomplishment. What scares me is that I have no doubt that sKerry would treat all of us the same, if he ever got the chance.
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Beatrice1000
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: American veterans congratulate Viet Nam on liberation an Reply with quote

baldeagle wrote:
Hard to believe that these folks are spouting their crap still after 30 years.....

The old guard is still running the organization -- still preaching to the world about their view of morality, which is, of course, the one and only true view -- preaching about how evil their country was, is and will be. Their old playbooks must be pretty dog-eared by now, don't you think.... the "struggle for liberation," the "illegal and immoral war" -- How they covet their ill-founded ideology, their time-worn phrases. Someone ought to donate a thesaurus to them so maybe they could come up with a new way of expressing themselves. (Oh wait, I guess one would need a new thought in order to use new words... Rolling Eyes )

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

baldeagle, When I first saw your topic heading
"American Veterans Congratulate Viet Nam on Liberation"
I thought WHAAAT?????
Then I see it's the VVAW. Of course they are justifying themselves and
their actions.
I honor all the Vietnam Vets who fought in that war to free a country from
Communism. But the VVAW dishonored themselves by their actions
upon returning to the U.S., DOOMING THE PEOPLE OF VIETNAM TO A
LIFE OF PERSECUTION AND STRIFE.
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can this stuff be sent to Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Johnny? I think it's time for their 're-education'.

How can people be so blind? Even their hindsight is blind. They can't see the damage they caused or the ongoing results of their fine efforts. To think that Johnny actually could have been pres with the help of dirty deeds from activists groups such as cBS and Hollyweird. It makes me sick to think that could have happened.
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