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shawa
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 Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 3:48 am Post subject: Appeals Court: 'In God We Trust' Slogan |
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Hooray, some judges 'get it' !!!
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGB6KU1ZO8E.html
| Quote: | Appeals Court: 'In God We Trust' Slogan Does Not Violate Constitution
By Larry O'dell Associated Press Writer
Published: May 13, 2005
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - The inscription "In God We Trust" on the facade of a government building in North Carolina does not violate the U.S. Constitution's guidelines on the separation of church and state, a federal appeals court ruled Friday.
A three-judge panel of the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously upheld a lower judge's dismissal of a lawsuit challenging the slogan written on the Davidson County Government Center in Lexington, N.C.
The inscription, in 18-inch block letters, was paid for with donations from individuals and churches in 2002. Lawyers Charles F. Lambeth Jr. and Michael D. Lea, who regularly practice in the center, filed a lawsuit a few months later, claiming the display violated the First Amendment and seeking its removal.
U.S. District Judge William L. Osteen ruled in May 2004 that the display "will not produce an excessive entanglement of church and state."
The appeals court agreed, noting that "In God We Trust" has appeared on the nation's coins since 1865 and was made the national motto by Congress in 1956. The motto also is inscribed above the speaker's chair in the U.S. House of Representatives and above the main door of the U.S. Senate chamber.
"In this situation, the reasonable observer must be deemed aware of the patriotic uses, both historical and present, of the phrase 'In God We Trust,'" Judge Robert King wrote. The court said the inscription would be unconstitutional if it served a religious purpose.
Lea said he was disappointed but was not sure whether he would appeal the ruling.
"The 4th Circuit got it exactly right," said James Redfern Morgan Jr., a Winston-Salem attorney who defended the county's governing board.
The U.S. Supreme Court is expected to rule in the coming weeks whether Ten Commandments displays on government property violate the Constitution's ban on "establishment" of religion. Last year the high court dismissed on technical grounds a case in which an appeals court ruled that the words "under God" in Pledge of Allegiance were unconstitutional. |
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LewWaters
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Location: Washington State
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| Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 5:40 am Post subject: |
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What really irritates me about all this "separation of church and state" stuff is that the phrase is found nowhere in our Constitution. It is found in another Constitution of a former state;
| Quote: | Article 52 [Religion]
(1) Citizens of the USSR are guaranteed freedom of conscience, that is, the right to profess or not to profess any religion, and to conduct religious worship or atheistic propaganda. Incitement of hostility or hatred on religious grounds is prohibited.
(2) In the USSR, the church is separated from the state, and the school from the church. |
Constitution of the Soviet Union
It would seem to me that our left, aided by the ACLU, is rapidly pushing us to adopt their failed constitution.
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GoophyDog
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| Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 6:38 am Post subject: |
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Good grief, color me confused. Just where, yes where in the phrase "In God We Trust" is there a religion favored, mentioned or established?
It is only in the perception of the reader that a religion is formed. The same would hold true if we put up a "In clouds we trust". It is only the perception of the reader that he/she would be looking for rain and only the fanatics would be looking for a huricane.
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Stevie
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Location: Queen Creek, Arizona
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| Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 7:49 am Post subject: |
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they'll use 'God' as the 'religious' offense.
They DON'T believe in God and WE are FORCING them to
believe in God.....
ha.... it hasn't worked so far..... 
I've worked in several courts in 2 different states and I've
yet to see /hear a person be refused entry into the
court because they did not believe in God.
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