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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 9:05 pm    Post subject: Border Patrol Reply with quote

Two birds…one stone
May 15th, 2005


While driving through El Paso recently, I heard a caller to a talk-radio program laughingly suggest that we should embed Army recruiters within the frontline ranks of the Border Patrol so that they could sign up illegal immigrants and thus eliminate the Army’s current recruiting deficits. I laughed, as did the host of the show, and said to my wife, “Hey, that’s not a bad idea.” As I continued driving eastward across the desert expanse of West Texas, I began to think more seriously about what the ramifications of such a policy might be. When we went through the Border Patrol checkpoint near Sierra Blanca, I told my wife, “You know, that fellow was joking but in fact, he may truly be onto something.”

Think about it, folks. We have a serious illegal immigration problem on our southern border. We also have a problem recruiting troops for the combat arms sectors in our military, all while we have this steady flow of stalwart young men sneaking into our country seeking a better way of life. From the benefit of six years active duty in the 101st and 82d Airborne Divisions, I know that Hispanics volunteer in disproportionate numbers for hazardous duty such as jumping out of airplanes and special operations. American Hispanics have a long and honorable tradition of serving in the Marine Corps with multiple generations having been Leathernecks. These volunteers have a warrior instinct that serves our nation well, as exemplified by Special Forces Medal of Honor winner, Roy Benavides, a native of my own South Texas.

So why don’t we put this warrior ethic to work for us? Let’s follow the jesting suggestion of the caller to the radio show and put some our sharpest, most impressive, Hispanic Army and Marine Corps non-coms in Border Patrol stations to interview physically fit illegal immigrants picked up by Border Patrol agents. Let those hapless young illegals see what determined Hispanic men can become in this country. Screen them thoroughly and offer the best of them an opportunity to become United States citizens by serving a four-year enlistment in Army or Marine Corps combat arms organizations. For you civilians not conversant in military terms, that means putting them in those units at the point of America’s military spear, where the fighting and the dying are done. Why combat arms units? Because no one who has stood shoulder-to-shoulder with a fellow soldier or marine under fire will ever have a greater appreciation for what this country is, what it stands for and the opportunities it offers.

How do we do it? Create two special training facilities, one at Fort Bliss in far West Texas, and the other at Camp Pendleton on the West Coast, where we put these volunteers through a four-week crash course of English with an emphasis on Army or Marine Corps terminology. Then, put them through an eight to twelve-week, basic training course to teach them fundamental military skills, conducted by bilingual non-coms, all the while, further honing their English language skills. Upon graduation from basic training, they should possess sufficient English to be able to take advanced specialty training with their American counterparts and then go on to assignments in combat arms units around the world. Perhaps we could even establish a buddy system wherein serving American Hispanic troops could volunteer to mentor these alien volunteers until they are fully assimilated.

And what’s in it for the illegals? How about a good paying, full-benefits job, which is what they come here seeking but seldom ever find. How about a job that teaches them responsibility and gives them skills usable as productive American citizens following their military service? The modern military is very supportive of those wishing to continue their education. Could we not ensure that these young soldiers obtain the equivalent of a high school GED during their enlistments so that they would be discharged back into civilian life with at least a basic education? Would not such men be able to contribute more to the economy of this nation than they do now as illiterate, minimum wage laborers, themselves and their families a drain on our already insufficient health care infrastructure?

Nay Sayers may argue these young men would be foreign mercenaries; I would counter that objection by saying that yes we are paying them to fight, but the coin of the realm is not just American dollars but dignity and honor, and a future to which they would not otherwise aspire. Offer them the opportunity to serve honorably as warriors and defenders of the nation they seek to inhabit instead of commending them to an unending future of degrading, undignified, menial labor. Oh, yes, and let us not forget citizenship, hard earned, legitimate citizenship in the nation they have served. Give them two years in the military to prove themselves worthy and then grant them full citizenship. Now they are no longer illegals; they have a vested interest in the nation’s wellbeing because they have served this country, defended this country as warriors, and it is now their country to cherish and maintain.

Think about it, folks. If you agree this concept has merit, copy this piece and send it to your representatives in Congress.

Russ Vaughn is the Poet Laureate of The American Thinker.



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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even after they did away with the Stewards rate Philipinos and Mexicans were common in my Navy. They could claim citizenship after a number of years. I don't know that foreign nationality is a bar to service but it did keep them out of many ratings: electronics, fire control, communications, anything to do with 'black boxes'. Presumably they weren't to be trusted with secrets but could be trusted with keys to the supply lockers so, personnel, disbursing, supply etc. is where many went.

The idea sounds better than it is. If we needed 10 million swinging d!cks in a hurry like WWII .... maybe. But relying on foreigners for your military is a program the Romans would have been wise to eschew.
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please view the website URL for proper viewing of the chart. From the way it reads all eligable illegal aliens are REQUIRED to register for the draft AND keep their address current. I would think that many should be arrested for non-compliance with this law. My son had to register at 18 yrs. old and has since served voluntarily with an honorable discharge. What's wrong with our country of laws enforcing the ones already on the books? I certainly do not think that Draft eligible unregistered illegal aliens should be attending anti-war protest rallies as has been the case in numerous cities around the U.S. I am pi#%ed off.
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News : Selective Service

Men Age 18 Through 25 Must Register with the Selective Service System


KNOW THE FACTS

What is Selective Service Registration?
Registration is the process by which the US government collects names and addresses of men age 18 through 25 to use in case a national emergency requires rapid expansion of the Armed Forces.

Will I Be Drafted?
Registering with Selective Service does not mean you are joining the military. And registering with Selective Service does not mean you are signing up for the all voluntary Armed Services.

The fact that a man is required to resister does not mean that he will be drafted. No one has been drafted since 1973. No one can be drafted into the military unless ordered by Congress and the President. A draft would most likely occur only in the event of war or national emergency.

What Happens If I Don’t Register?
Young men convicted of failure to register may be fined up to $250,000, imprisoned for up to five years, or both. In addition to being subject to prosecution, failure to register may cause you to permanently forfeit eligibility for certain benefits. Not registering is a felony
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What Are The Benefits?
Registering with Selective Service can open doors for you. For example, Selective Service registration is often required for Federal Job Training that can train you for jobs as an auto mechanic, electrician, carpenter, and many other types of jobs. A man must be registered before he can get Federal (and some state) loans, grants, and scholarships. Also, Selective Service registration is required for eligibility for US citizenship and government jobs, such as a postal worker, computer technician, policeman, budget specialist, and others.

HOW TO REGISTER

Click here to fill out the registration form online.

WHO MUST REGISTER

With few exceptions, all male US citizens and male immigrant aliens residing in the US and its territories must register within 30 days of their 18th birthday. Refer to the chart below for specifics:

Category
Yes
No

All male US Citizens born after December 31, 1959, who are 18 but not yet 26 years old, except as noted below; •


Military-Related

Members of the Armed Forces on active duty (active duty for training does not constitute "active duty" for registration purposes)
• *

Cadets and Midshipmen at Service Academies or Coast Guard Academy
• *

Cadets at the Merchant Marine Academy •


Students in Officer Procurement Programs at the Citadel, North Georgia College, Norwich University, and Virginia Military Institute • *

National Guardsmen and Reservists not on active duty •

Delayed Entry Program enlistees •

ROTC students •

Separatees from Active Military Service, separated for any reason before age 26 • *

Men rejected for enlistment for any reason before age 26 •

Civil Air Patrol members •

Aliens **

Lawful non-immigrant on visas (e.g., diplomatic and consular personnel and families, foreign students, tourists with unexpired Forms I-94, I-95A, or Border Crossing Documents I-185, I-186, or I-444) •

Permanent resident aliens •

Special (seasonal) agricultural workers (I-688) •

Special agricultural workers (I-688A) •

Refugee, parolee, and asylee aliens •

Undocumented (illegal) aliens •

Dual national U.S. citizens •

Confined

Incarcerated, or hospitalized or institutionalized for medical reasons •

Handicapped physically or mentally

Able to function in public with or without assistance •

Continually confined to a residence, hospital, or institution •



* Must register within 30 days of release unless already age 26, or already registered when released, or unless exempt during entire period age 18 through 25.

** Residents of Puerto Rico, Guam, Virgin Islands, and Northern Mariana Islands when they are habitual residents in the United States. Habitual residence is presumed whenever a national or a citizen of the Republic of the Marshall Islands or the Federated States of Micronesia resides in the United States for more than one year in any status, except as a student of employee of the government of his homeland.


AFTER YOU REGISTER

Watch Your Mail!
Within 90 days after registering, you should receive in the mail a Registration Acknowledgment from Selective Service which will provide you with a copy of your registration record. Safeguard that document since it will serve as official proof of your registration. If you do not receive a Registration Acknowledgment within 90 days after registering, it is very important that you write to the address below, or call (847) 688-6888 to verify that your registration has been received.

Selective Service System
Registration Information Office
P.O. Box 94638
Palatine, IL 60094-4638

Update Your Record
Once you register, the law also requires you to keep Selective Service informed of your address changes so you can be reached without delay. You can inform Selective Service of an address change by writing to the address above, or you may go to any post office for a Change-Of-Information Form (SSS Form 2), fill it out and mail to Selective Service.
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very bad idea as far as I'm concerned. They already think that California, Arizona, and Texas really belong to Mexico and that America stole them after the War. If we give them guns, they might just take it back that much quicker as their current plan of migration takes a little bit longer to achieve. Living in San Diego, I can tell you that pretty soon, when you come to San Diego, make sure you can speak Spanish or you will have a hard time communicating. Even the ATM I used to go to from my former bank, Washington Mutual (Run From This Bank) had an ATM that started in Spanish as the default screen language.

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree this is a bad idea. We need to close the border and deport all illegal aliens. Then, and only then, will a guest worker program be manageable. Because many non-citizen aliens have served honorably during our wars, I would see no problem with a few military service jobs being included in a guest worker program but applicants would need to meet the same qualifications that citizens are required to meet, including mental, physical and lingual. They also should be as committed to the future of the US as most other military personnel are.
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