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justamom · Lt.Jg. Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 135

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/8/19/163905.shtml

The Bush-Cheney campaign isn't about to let Sen. John Kerry's hypocritical attacks on outside groups' advertising go unchallenged.

Kerry and company are screaming about Swift Boat Veterans for Truth's $550,000 ad campaign in a mere three states, but White House spokesman Scott McClellan pointed out again today that Kerry has benefited from $62 million in ads spewed nationwide by Bush-hating pro-Democrat groups.

BenJaxBchFL · Seaman Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 198

I noticed the statement that President has condemned all ads by the "shadowy groups". What is your take on that as it relates to SBVT? Because there's nothing shadowy about SBVT.
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carpro · Admin Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1176 Location: Texas

I believe he is in general disagreement with the concept of 527's and doesn't like the way they circumvent the intent of election laws passed by congress. My opinion is that he would like to see them ALL go away including Swiftvets.
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Polaris · Rear Admiral Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 626

Carpo,

I mean no offense to the swift vets. As a vet myself I am behind you all the way (as most of you know), but I think the president has a point and I certainly sympathize.

President Bush has been unfairly attacked and impuned for more than a year by unregulated 527 groups. It is amazing that he isn't 15 points down.

-Polaris
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Scott · Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:51 pm Post subject:

I'd accept all 527s going away if the McCain-Feingold "Campaign Finance Reform Act" went with them.

Sen. McCain, for all his heroism as a Navy flier, seems to me to have been a pretty poor Senator.
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thordaddy · Seaman Recruit Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 27

This whole issue of 527s is very tricky because those who most pushed McCain-Feingold (George Soros) knew exactly what they were doing. They were well aware of these 527s and that is why they were the first to jump on them so quickly after campaign finance law passed. I don't think the 527s should be banned. Why? They are the right of Americans whether you like what they say or not. McCain-Feingold should be dumped.

hanna · Rear Admiral Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 701

527's or not, if we EVER get to a place that the President can call up a private citizen and say "take that ad off the air", this country is finished. That is the scarriest thought in the world, and yet....it already happened. Kerry did it yesterday and he is not even President.....

Think what would be in the future were he to be elected...

kurtsprincess · Seaman Apprentice Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 80

What I think is so sad is that the MSM is now getting on the bandwagon about the 527's......now that there is a major one that isn't a Bush-bashing one.

However, 527's will no longer be needed.....the media and journalists such as Chris Matthews are better attack dogs and they are not as regulated as the 527's. I would love to see a 527 that comes out with an ad about the obviously biased journalists that are dominating the airwaves today.
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Curt · Lt.Jg. Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 129 Location: Eastern NC

In my opinion, Bush is between a Rock and a Hard place. He cant say that he is for SBVFT or he will be crusified and or criminially investageted. Then when he says he condemns the ads, he makes us a little antsy. Well I will be glad to take one for the team just as long as Kerry does not get in office. Bush is a standup guy in my opinion and I think he knows we will understand. Again, this is all just my opinion on this.

As far as the Campaign Reform, it is a joke to me. They shouldnt have touched it because they left so damn many lopeholes. That whole process was a waste of taxpayers money.

Curt

Jette · Lt.Jg. Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 118

Brit Hume said this tonight:

There can be no contact or coordination between the candidate and the 527 groups. Hume said that (and this would require LEGAL clarification) if President Bush called John O'Neill and said, "Stop the ad," it would 1) establish contact between candidate and 527 (a no-no), and 2) demonstrate coordination (by telling 527 NOT to do such-and-such) between candidate and 527.

If there's an attorney on this board, perhaps they could clarify.

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justamom · Lt.Jg. Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 135

"There can be no contact or coordination between the candidate and the 527 groups. Hume said that (and this would require LEGAL clarification) if President Bush called John O'Neill and said, "Stop the ad," it would 1) establish contact between candidate and 527 (a no-no), and 2) demonstrate coordination (by telling 527 NOT to do such-and-such) between candidate and 527."

So what about MICHAEL MOORE AND JOHN KERRY????? Didn't I see him in the VIP box with former Pres. Jimmy Carter at the DNC?????

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