SwiftVets.com

[NavyChief]

I need to know something from someone that knew Kerry.

Did Kerry go by "John Wayne" in Vietnam? Or was that what other people called him?

thanks

- instigator
_________________
Working with Senator Kerry four years in the POW/MIA Office left me thinking -- when did the man ever do any work?

[thegunnerswife]

Hey there Chief! (my husband was Chief)

Check out this article.

http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=8926
_________________
IYAOYAS!

[NavyChief]

Thank you... I need more more more!! Anything about Kerry and John Wayne. PLLEAAASSEEEE! The matter is confidential or I would spill the beans. Ya know, lots of trolls

- instigator
_________________
Working with Senator Kerry four years in the POW/MIA Office left me thinking -- when did the man ever do any work?

[NavyChief]

Does anyone have the 13 March 69 Market Time Spot Report with PCF-3 getting mined?

This is very urgent please. I can't get onto the kerry site.



- instigator
_________________
Working with Senator Kerry four years in the POW/MIA Office left me thinking -- when did the man ever do any work?

[thegunnerswife]

[ASPB]

Chief,

It should have been page 1 of the 13 Mar 69 CASREP. PCF-94 was page 2. They didn't release it. NHC Anacostia seems to be the only choice I've been trying to get it for two weeks with no luck. If you want to talk about this try going to:

http://idexer.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1

Chief, send me a PM. I know you're active duty!
_________________
On Sale! Order in lots of 100 now at velero@rcn.com Free for the cost of shipping All profits (if any, especially now) go to Swiftvets. The author of "Sink Kerry Swiftly" ---ASPB

[azpatriot]

Here's a link to a list of all the call signs used.

http://swiftboats.net/extras/call_signs.htm

[NavyChief]

Okay, I finally got the Spot Report I was looking for. Sorry about the confusion. I was looking for the report on 13 Mar 69 that talked about the mission from Kerry's own report.

thanks again...

I still need the John Wayne info if ya got it

- instigator
_________________
Working with Senator Kerry four years in the POW/MIA Office left me thinking -- when did the man ever do any work?

[thegunnerswife]

Roger, I'm on it!
_________________
IYAOYAS!

[NavyChief]

[Me#1You#10]

Chief, might not be much help, but I just read recently SOMEWHERE that Kerry did use another call sign for a short time before changing it to "Boston Strangler". Don't remember if it was "John Wayne" tho.

[Navymomx2]

This is what I found on page 36 of Unfit:

The truth is that at the time of this incident Kerry was an officer in command (OinC) under training aboard the skimmer using the call sign "Robin"

Schachte was using the call sign "Batman" and was also on the skimmer

Hope this is what you are looking for.
_________________
Proud 2 Star Blue Star Navy Mom

Honor, Courage and Committment
something John F. Kerry doesn't have

[thegunnerswife]

I'm looking into all of that. The only one I came up with being called John Wayne was some other guy... they called him the Duke because he loved John Wayne. Still no reference to Kerry being called John Wayne.

I believe he was probably called Robin - I bet he wore tights too.
_________________
IYAOYAS!

[thegunnerswife]

I found this too..........

Thomas Wright was one of John F. Kerry's fellow Swift boat officers in Vietnam. Since Wright outranked Kerry, he was Kerry's sometime boat group Officer-in-Charge, so Wright had occasion to observe Kerry’s behavior and attitudes, and the circumstances surrounding his early departure from the war zone. The intervening years have not dimmed his memories.

When the Swift boats of Coastal Division 11 sailed into harm’s way from their Phu Quoc Island base of An Thoi, for missions along the rivers of Vietnam’s southwesternmost Kien Giang and An Xuyen provinces, they communicated by radio. When they did, boat captains adopted distinctive, often humorous call signs for identification purposes. Eldon Thompson was “Mary Poppins,” William Schachte was “Baccardi Charlie,” James T. Grace was “Twiggy,” and Tom Wright was “Dudley Do-Right.” When John Kerry radioed another Swift boat, he used the call sign, “Boston Strangler.”

Working with call sign “Boston Strangler” became problematical. “I had a lot of trouble getting him to follow orders,” recalls Wright. “He had a different view of leadership and operations. Those of us with direct experience working with Kerry found him difficult and oriented towards his personal, rather than unit goals and objectives. I believed that overall responsibility rested squarely on the shoulders of the OIC or OTC in a free-fire zone. You had to be right (before opening fire). Kerry seemed to believe there were no rules in a free-fire zone and you were supposed to kill anyone. I didn’t see it that way.”

In Wright’s view, it was important that the enemy understood that Swift boats were a competent, effective force that could dominate his location. To do that, you also had to control the people and their actions; to have them accept Swift boat crews and their authority. You couldn’t achieve that by indiscriminate use of weapons in free fire zones.

It got to a point where Wright told his divisional commander he no longer wanted Kerry in his boat group, so he was re-assigned to another one. “I had an idea of his actions but didn’t have to be responsible for him.” Then Wright and like-minded boat officers took matters into their own hands. “When he got his third Purple Heart, three of us told him to leave. We knew how the system worked and we didn’t want him in Coastal Division 11. Kerry didn’t manipulate the system, we did.”

As for medals, Commander Wright holds strong views: “No one was recognized for completely overwhelming the enemy with skill, courage and bravery. No one wanted a Purple Heart because it meant we had made a mistake. We made sure our crews were recognized, but no one took pride in a Purple Heart. Everyone who served is equally important, regardless of rank or awards.


I found this "ask Jeeves"..... it was on another message board so I am not totally sure how accurate this is. BUT I have heard him called the Boston Strangler in other news that is legit. Perhaps this is too.

I'm being paged by my husband to hit the rack.... lol! He doesn't really talk like that to me.

G'night all and if ya need anything else just pm me. I enjoy looking up things and creating things like bumper stickers!
_________________
IYAOYAS!

[Wing Wiper]

He used the callsign "Square Jaw" originally. I never heard a John Wayne reference. I'm betting you have, though. Get him, Chief!