SwiftVets.com

[Hammer2]

Here is a link to an excerpt of "Masters of Deceit" by J. Edgar Hoover.
The book was published in 1958 and is a detailed exposure of Communist methods to fool the public. Read it for yourself and see how relevant it is to today!
http://www.zpub.com/notes/masters.html

If anyone can find a link to the text of the entire book, we need to get it posted for everyone to read.
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"The price of freedom is eternal vigilence" - Thomas Jefferson
"An armed society is a polite society" - Thomas Jefferson
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it won't be needed until someone tries to take it away." -- Thomas Jefferson

[Chuck54]

I have a copy of this book somehwere in my bookshelves. I read it with much skepticism of Hoover but it was a very well written and compelling expose' of communist sympathizers in this country. I was surprised at Hoover's insight and logical approach.
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"And no pair has been more wrong, more loudly, more often, than the two Senators from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry"

Zell Miller

[lrb111]

Here's a David Horowitz article, former communist, and orgainzer of the first antiwar marches.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12701
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said Democratic Chairman Terry McAuliffe. "It is inexcusable to mock service and sacrifice."
well, when even the DNC can see it,,,,, then kerry is toast.

[jimlarsen]

Forget about Hoover's book. He's been exposed as a fraud with ties to the Chicago mob people. Remember, we could never convicted the Cosa Nostra (sp?) while Hoover "served" his country. Also, many people, myself included, believe that Hoover, who hated the Kennedys, covered up the real facts about the murders of the Kennedys..

[helpmycountry]

Look at the web sites like Youth 4 Socialism on the net and in the links they all link to Michael Moore and the moveon.org. Then when you look up opensecrets.org you can find exactly who is giving and how much. The American Communist Part is one of the highest supporters. They claim that Hillary Clinton supports a lot of their views. The they cut down the swift boat vets honest and protecting us from a man like Kerry. He has even has deadbeat dad filed on him when he first got back from Vietnam. He married Julia Thorne who filed this. She said all Kerry wanted to be in power and told her she was not a good candidates wife. He told her she may take him down where she was a depressed person. He steps on anybody in his way. Now I hear he is giving somebody in his camp the boot.I pray we give him a boot in his butt.
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Swift Boat Veterans called back to war on Kerry
Linda McREA

[Hammer2]

Wow, great article. I am a reqular reader of Horowitz and I missed that one. Thanks for posting it.

I am adding a link below to a PBS story dealing with US counterintelligence operations during the Vietnam era. The point of view is typical of PBS but they do bring up an important issue. In a free society, a blalance must be struck between the right of a Nation to defend itself and the right of the citizens to freely associate and speak their minds.
This goes right to the heart of our current war on terror. Just as in Vietnam, we face an enemy who deliberately hides behind civilians to avoid detection. Just as in Vietnam our enemy is using Peace movements to sap our will to fight. The difference is that we face a new threat, the alliance of the hard left with Islamofascists. Due to the nature of this new war, the Government must reconstitute a strong and effective intelligence and counter terrorist capability.
The left would argue that any surviellence of political activity is unacceptable. The right argues that we must defend ourselves by any means necessary. I believe that using our intelligence services to gather information on and monitoring the activities of groups that actively seek the destruction of the West or of our Democratic system is not inherently a violation of our freedom. You or I advocating our positions on politics is not a threat to the country. People who would use the freedom of our society to organize movements to overthrow it or launch terrorist attacks are a fair target for intelligence operations.
The Swiftboat Vets are opening up this old debate. It is my opinion that we lost this debate to the left in Vietnam. 911 has brought this debate front and center again. I believe that by exposing John Kerry, we are also exposing the left. The one difference is that by losing our will in Vietnam, we caused the human tragedy that followed. In the war on terror, we run the risk of being incapable of defending ourselves against an enemy that desires our total destruction. The consequences of failure will be catastrophic to us and the west in general.

here is the link: http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/cointelpro.html
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"The price of freedom is eternal vigilence" - Thomas Jefferson
"An armed society is a polite society" - Thomas Jefferson
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it won't be needed until someone tries to take it away." -- Thomas Jefferson

[Hammer2]

[Hammer2]

If you want to understand why this issue is important, follow this link:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40257

The drumbeat of lies is having an effect. The fact that this many people can believe such a patently ridiculous idea is testament to Joseph Goebbels

To quote old Joe:

"Propaganda is a means to an end. Its purpose is to lead the people to an understanding that will allow them to willingly and without internal resistance devote themselves to the tasks and goals of a superior leadership. If propaganda is to succeed, it must know what it wants. It must keep a clear and firm goal in mind, and seek the appropriate means and methods to reach that goal. Propaganda as such is neither good nor evil. Its moral value is determined by the goals it seeks."

From a speech at Nuremburg in 1934 by Goebbels
Link to full speech: http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb59.htm
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"The price of freedom is eternal vigilence" - Thomas Jefferson
"An armed society is a polite society" - Thomas Jefferson
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it won't be needed until someone tries to take it away." -- Thomas Jefferson

[Hammer2]

Here is one source of the drumbeat: http://www.911truth.org/

This is typical of the kind of propaganda operations that are being mounted to confuse our people and cause us to give up our fight. These are the same domestic enemies we fought in the 20's,30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's and now. The faces change, the names of the groups change, but the purpose and intent is always the same.
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"The price of freedom is eternal vigilence" - Thomas Jefferson
"An armed society is a polite society" - Thomas Jefferson
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it won't be needed until someone tries to take it away." -- Thomas Jefferson

[tfiks]

The Seattle Times published a pathetic attack on the Swiftboat vets recently. I wrote back to the old journalism professor who wrote the attack. Here's most of my email to him