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		| ccwebb Ensign
 
 
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		| swing votr Seaman Apprentice
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:52 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| http://www.electoral-vote.com This site is a pretty acurrate view using the latest polls.  Last week Bush was killing, but as of 09-13-04 Kerry has a slight lead.
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		| Polaris Rear Admiral
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:59 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| swingvotr, 
 See www.electionprojection.com  He uses a better model.  Not only is votemaster ( www.electoral-vote.com ) biased (they both are), but he uses Zobgy Interactive polls and some questionable methodology when assingning polls.  He used to be quite fair when assigning polls, but lately his partisanship has gotten the best of him.
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		| swing votr Seaman Apprentice
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:56 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Polaris wrote: |  	  | swingvotr, 
 See www.electionprojection.com  He uses a better model.  Not only is votemaster ( www.electoral-vote.com ) biased (they both are), but he uses Zobgy Interactive polls and some questionable methodology when assingning polls.  He used to be quite fair when assigning polls, but lately his partisanship has gotten the best of him.
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 Is one biased one way, and one biased the other?  should I take the two, add them together and then divide by two? haha
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		| msindependent Vice Admiral
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:59 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Actually swing voter, that's what I do. |  | 
	
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		| Hammer2 PO2
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:05 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The problem with a lot of the pollsters is that they weight their samples based on a pre-conceived idea about the proportions of each representative group in their polls. If, as many suspect, many people have switched to supporting the President  than their polling interviews too many Republicans (they think). They then weight the poll to reduce the number of Republicans polled. It is not sinister, they just think they are accidently getting too many Republicans in their sample - must be some kind of fluke, we'll fix that. _________________
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